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Lancaster New Era
Oct 20, 2005 13:33 EST
By Daniel Burke

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Wow, someone needs to write that last website. They forgot some of the best stuff....

What's you point Neo? That since there is a lot more people there should be less morals?

daddyg
For those who refuse to believe my comment that the past was just as immoral as the present, consider these places in time: the Inquisition, the Gulag, the French Revolution, the Mayan Empire, the Civil War... Where is the morality in all of that? You really think we're worse today? Sex, drugs, and rock-and-roll have been a part of human culture since the beginning of time -- they just had different names. I seem to recall a phrase in Isaiah that says, "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity." And it is. Now, in the past, AND in the future. I'm not endorsing immoral behavior. I'm just being honest that it's a part of human nature, no matter how hard you try to stamp it out. If you're without sin, go ahead and cast the first stone. I dare you. If we didn't commit evil, we wouldn't know what good is.

kipvanblarcom
QUOTE(kipvanblarcom @ Oct 21 2005, 04:54 PM)
For those who refuse to believe my comment that the past was just as immoral as the present, consider these places in time: the Inquisition, the Gulag, the French Revolution, the Mayan Empire, the Civil War... Where is the morality in all of that? You really think we're worse today? Sex, drugs, and rock-and-roll have been a part of human culture since the beginning of time -- they just had different names. I seem to recall a phrase in Isaiah that says, "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity." And it is. Now, in the past, AND in the future. I'm not endorsing immoral behavior. I'm just being honest that it's a part of human nature, no matter how hard you try to stamp it out. If you're without sin, go ahead and cast the first stone. I dare you. If we didn't commit evil, we wouldn't know what good is.



I think the "vanity" stuff is in Ecclesiates. Anyway, I think you are right regarding the idea that there has always been a sense that things used to be better.
NonaYabiznis
QUOTE(daddyg @ Oct 21 2005, 03:56 PM)
What's you point Neo? That since there is a lot more people there should be less morals?

Since there are more people living today then there have been in all of recorded history I don't need people like you telling me what is moral or not. If you have a problem with alcohol...fine, but I do not. If you have a problem with sex...fine, but I do not. If you have a problem with drugs...fine, but I do not. If you have a problem with swearing...fine, but I do not.
neothink
I never said that these things did not exist in the past. The claim was made that our society today is no less moral than the societies of the past. I guess we will never know for sure, but I am saying that even with a larger percentage of people in the world, a larger percentage of people participate in the immoral acts. Just look at Neo’s post. We have become a society of don’t tell me what to do, so as immoral things become more accepted as normal behavior, then larger percentages of the people will do them. Funny thing is then people wander why we have the problems we do, such mentioned in the rudeness thread (http://talkback.lancasteronline.com/index.php?showtopic=23201) and this thread (http://talkback.lancasteronline.com/index....showtopic=23349).

daddyg
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