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Churches getting petitions to stop casino

Senators seek signatures as they continue to drum up opposition for downtown project.

Dec 17, 2005 13:40 EST

By Tom Murse

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You're awful quick to tell others what they should be doing, cecil

No, isn't that what the bible SUGGESTS YOU DO?

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The Church has always made it's mission mopping up the disasters created by addictive and sinful behavior

HOW'S THAT?

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offensive ignorance

pray for me and all others that you have to spend your time mopping up after

cecil

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pray for me and all others that you have to spend your time mopping up after

Actually CONTINUE to pray... in fact will continue to pray for people with misplaced anger and contempt. It's your life Cecil man... you can choose who you want to serve; from what I see your guy isn't doing a very good job out there in the world. Doesn't take much to look around and see the human wreckage. You really should deal with your anger and bitterness though; lots of people numb their emotions lots of interesting ways.

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For what do you "love Vegas and Reno," Scalewoodman?

Oh, the glare of the spotlight of personal responsibility Eury?! I travel for work; the cities have bright lights, lots of shows and sights, buffets, and excellent restaurants all very inexpensive... the climate is excellent; a welcome change from the seasons we experience; nice to catch some rays around a hotel pool or check out Hoover Dam or explore the deserts. One of the few places I know where you can be absolutely and completely alone to civilization... just you and God. Should try it sometime. Short interesting drive to LA. From Reno nice drive to Tahoe where there is great sightseeing and skiing; Harrah's car museum, etc. Just to make you feel better, I usually spend my maximum allowance of $20 playing video poker or nickel slots. Pretty sure that doesn't fall into the category of 'addictive' behavior; you can judge however you want-- I'm OK with it.

Scalewoodman

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in fact will continue to pray for people with misplaced anger and contempt

What? Because I make a statement you don't like I am angry.

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you can choose who you want to serve; from what I see your guy isn't doing a very good job out there in the world

And who do you think is my guy?

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The Church has always made it's mission mopping up the disasters created by addictive and sinful behavior

This sounds like what you might be bitter about. "MY GUY" knows his children make mistakes and is always there to help pick them up when they are ready. No mopping up needed only forgiveness, understanding and acceptance. Sorry you feel you have to "MOP" up after so many.

cecil

Yet, if we look to history it was the church that ultimately reformed many immoral things such as northern churches preaching the unrighteousness of slavery. The church fought and won durring the progressive era to rid our political system of corrupt practices and got legislation passed to reform the electoral process. Child labor laws were another in the long list of reforms that came about because of church "morality" being imposed on the public. I think it is dangerous to expect people to be quiet en mass when they have serious objections. The church gives them an organizational tie, organization etc. to voice their opinions to be heard. Politicians are more likely to listen to groups/organizations than individuals... individuals are hard to organize etc.

jackooboy

This is our church's stance on gambling:

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Gambling, which involves the transfer of something of value from one person to another on the basis of chance, is defined by the following factors: 1) a price paid by the bettor, 2) a payoff to the winner, and 3) an element of chance.

More specifically our opposition to gambling rests upon the following:

1) There is a high risk of loss by the bettor of the amount wagered. This may reach catastrophic proportions when compulsive gambling is involved.

2) The payoff to the winner(s) comes from the amounts wagered by other bettors, many of whom can ill-afford the loss.

3) By promising the possibility of gaining wealth with no effort, gambling appeals to the human emotions of avarice and greed.

Engaging in this activity is inconsistent with the Christian way of life. It is a distortion of the normal and unavoidable risk-taking involved in daily life and in the realization of human potential. The biblical view of work (Ephesians 4:28; 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12), stewardship (1 Corinthians 6:20), love of neighbor (Galatians 5:13-14), and proper use of influence (2 Thessalonians 3:9) rules out participation in all forms of gambling including lotteries and other games of chance sanctioned by the state.

These evils that accompany gambling preclude its use as entertainment or as a proper way to support worthy causes. Responding to promotional lotteries should be regarded with caution as well. Although the entrant risks nothing and payoffs come out of company profits, the appeal to greed and riches without labor remains.

daddyg

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