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Defiant coroner fires back
Kirchner says he doesn’t recall giving secret password to Intell reporters, attacks their truthfulness. Paper says it did nothing wrong.
Lancaster New Era
Feb 06, 2007 13:53 EST
By TOM MURSE and JANET KELLEY

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QUOTE(Skillz @ Feb 9 2007, 10:20 PM)


Long posts are intentionally forbidden, it's not a limitation of the software. When certain users stop posting entire copyrighted articles from other websites then perhaps we will think about increasing the post limit.

Also, if you're copying something from MS Word into your post then you'll get the over limit warning as well. Don't blame us, blame Microsoft.

Skillz - I often copy and paste articles from other sites but I always include the web address.

Is this considered taboo???
Kate
QUOTE(Kate @ Feb 10 2007, 10:13 AM)

Skillz - I often copy and paste articles from other sites but I always include the web address.

Is this considered taboo???


Entire articles are bad, the first one or two paragraphs are fine along with a link to the complete article.
QUOTE(chrysotile @ Feb 10 2007, 09:41 AM)

Being kind of selective about which ethics and laws you are concerned about breaking now aren't you?


"We" aren't breaking any laws by posting copyrighted material, it's users of this website who are. Talkback operates under section 230 of the Communications Decency Act which says:

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"We" wouldn't be in trouble for the material but we would need to remove it if someone reported the post to us. However, seeing as we don't like getting those types of legal notices we do our best to make it painful for someone to post entire copyrighted works.
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Justin's a good egg, generally speaking, and I believe that his statement is likely 100% accurate.

Which brings me back to being incredulous that his testimony didn't result in the immunity and prosecution coming out in reverse order. Kirchner should have been offered immunity to spill his guts and the reporters who actually broke the law should be facing charges, possibly along with an editor or two.

This is so f'd up that I can only assume that money changed hands somewhere, or other undue influence was excercised
citydweller
QUOTE(citydweller @ Feb 10 2007, 07:39 PM)
Justin's a good egg, generally speaking, and I believe that his statement is likely 100% accurate.

Which brings me back to being incredulous that his testimony didn't result in the immunity and prosecution coming out in reverse order. Kirchner should have been offered immunity to spill his guts and the reporters who actually broke the law should be facing charges, possibly along with an editor or two.

This is so f'd up that I can only assume that money changed hands somewhere, or other undue influence was excercised


I had dinner tonight with an old friend, a graduate of journalism school and a long time reporter (not a reporter anymore). He has worked for many newspapers, including, for a short time. Lancaster Newspapers.
I asked him about this password fiasco and he said something I thought was very enlightening, about the reporters and the editors.
He said, not judging or defending anyone, that, speaking as a reporter, it is not in the DNA of a reporter to not use access to information, even if that access is questionable, and confidential (i.e., using Kirchners password, however it was obtained), because that is what reporters do, find information.
However, it is the job of a reporter to let their editor know what they are doing and more importantly, it is definately the job if the editors to know what it is the reporters are doing, where it is they are getting their information, how they are getting it, and how they are crediting their sources in the stories they write.
He said his biggest conflict, had he been in those reporters shoes, was how to credit the information they were getting, in the stories they wrote, using the 911 information. And he certainly would have gone to his editors to try to resolve that conflict.
Since the reporters were clearly not crediting the 911 system, or Kirchner, as the source of their information, in their stories, what is the explanation from the reporters, and the editors? That there was an "understanding" that the use of the password was "authorized". If so, why not credit its use in the articles? Why keep it hush hush? Because they were not authorized to use it, nor were they authorized to enter the 911 system using the password and they knew it. That's why.

chrysotile
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