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Controversial Hazleton mayor vows to fight on
National symbol for battle against illegal immigration brings message here.
Lancaster New Era
Aug 08, 2007 11:09 EST
By CHAD UMBLE, Staff

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QUOTE(Whirlwind @ Aug 12 2007, 09:53 PM)
Uh, the illegals didn't sign a paper when they left. So I have no idea how many left. I have read articles about how the landlords that formerly rented to illegals have empty units, and blame the mayor's initiative. They are engaged in a crime of opportunity, so they go where there's easier pickings, so to speak.

Perhaps the paper could have included the text of the remark the Hazelton Mayor made to cause a standing ovation. Since he was speaking to the Chamber, I have an idea he might have pointed out the economic benefits of his program. Ya' think?

Simple question, how many illegals in Hazelton? I have read some numbers, but didn't focus on the number, because it might as well be written on smoke.

How many units lost tenants? A few, dozens, hundreds? Without quatifying the problem how can it be deemed any kind of a success or even a step in the right direction? Why should landlords hold the burdon of ferreting out illegals? Why not make restaurant owners just as culpable. Make patrons prove citizenship before serving food. In fact, why not make proof of citizenship a requirement for any purchas and hold business owners accountable if they sell something to an "illegal".
How does one go about proving citizenship? How would I do so if I was looking to rent? Would my Social Security card suffice? Mine is on a flimsy piece of paper that I could reproduce with a scanner and ink jet in all of about 5 minutes. Guess we are going to need that national ID afterall, huh?
Later...Shawn

Shawn
You are indirectly making a case for a national ID. Which is why I think this problem has been allowed to fester. So a large portion of the population asks for an ID that can't be compromised, one with biometric data like an iris scan.

That's why I'd rather the fedgov uphold the laws already on the books regarding immigration.

Currently, if an employer sends a new employee's number to the S.S. admin., they do check to see if the number is good. They issue an alert to the employer after he has tallied 10 bad numbers. The first report should generate a visit, IMO. This problem would have been stopped before it got started. Got to wonder who is served by the chaos.

Whirlwind
YES by all means we need a tamper proof ID card; I see no problem with a national ID card, why would anyone disagree?
PS I already have more then a few ID cards that I must produce, what I want is one that can’t be ripped off and used by someone.

littledutchboy
Colin Powell slipped up in a recent interview and noted that the S.S. number is not for allocating benefits, but to track citizens. Did an immediate backtrack, but there it is. They want a better tracking tool. If the current laws were enforced properly, there would be no fraudulent use of S.S. numbers.

When the "new" ID is compromised, and it will be, will you ask for the security of a chip? I'm guessing the PTB are counting on just that reaction. "Hey, my dog is chipped, and it ain't killin' him".

Whirlwind
QUOTE(Whirlwind @ Aug 14 2007, 07:28 AM)
When the "new" ID is compromised, and it will be, will you ask for the security of a chip? I'm guessing the PTB are counting on just that reaction. "Hey, my dog is chipped, and it ain't killin' him".
I agree completely.

NO form of security is foolproof. And RFID chips are notoriously insecure.
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