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The symbols of racism
For African Americans, the messages delivered by Confederate flags and ropes are from a time that cannot be forgotten.
Sunday News
Oct 14, 2007 00:01 EST
LANCASTER
By Suzanne Cassidy

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QUOTE(Whirlwind @ Oct 18 2007, 07:43 AM)
"As was clearly stated (must be why you didn't understand it), I know much more about all aspects of that time period than you could ever hope to." LancCitizen
You may think so. What you apparently know are all the little nuances that are part of the official story. I know most of them, plus the other side of the story. And you claim to know more. I don't see how that is a remote possibility, without reading from both sides. Something you have repeatedly shown your aversion to.
Do you even understand the concept "the victor writes the history"? Does goodness and light win every war in your estimation? That's a much simpler plan than reading from both sides, granted, but are you getting the whole story?
I stopped being impressed with folks who could repeat back rote lessons in like third grade. Certainly not impressed by an adult who does it. If you know half of what you claim, you should have doubts about the official story.
Never a reply to my questions, just blather. And now, bragging. Yawn.

Good try at diversion. Didn't work though. I know more than you could ever hope to know. You see, I'm not a closed minded, white-supremist bigot like you are so I'm able to listen to all sides, not just the "white view" like you are limited to.

You can fancy yourself a scholar, you can fancy yourself anything you like, but the truth is, everyone can see right through you for you are too one dimensional to prevent the wind from whipping your paper-thin argument to the side, showing what is behind it.

I do feel sorry for you on many levels, however, with your unwillingness, or more likely, inability to listen to further your knowledge, there is no reason to waste valuable time trying to help you comprehend something you will never be capable of comprehending.

Don't mistake not falling into your poorly laid and easily escaped traps at dodging your questions, it's actually just acknowledging that your questions have no merit and deserve no attention, as is the case with all other racists and their attempts at justifying their hatred.
QUOTE(whiteboy @ Oct 19 2007, 11:44 PM)
I have to be honest, I live well below the Mason/Dixon line and you live well above it. Anyone flying the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia up there is doing it for one reason and one reason only. In an almost all-white school in Pennsylvania, these kids are only doing it for intimidation.

Unfortunately, this flag and it's meaning has been hi-jacked by racists fringe organizations and (even more unfortunately) was used by States during forced de-segregation during the 1950s and 1960s. These groups and the southern States who "adopted" the flag as part of their State flags also did it for one reason and one reason only.

Any true southerner who wants to honor his/her ancestors who fought in The War Between the States should only fly the first national or the stainless banner. I have gotten so that I only fly the first national flag at my home. It looks better and has none of the ugly connotations that the battle flag has unfortunately gathered over the years.
These kids aren't southerners. They have no right to claim any southern heritage and were only doing this to intimidate the black kids in their school.


Thank you for stating exactly what is being done. You are right. Anyone ABOVE the mason-dixon line flies that flag for no reason other than hatred. There are many people in the south who are SICK of seeing racist little 'supremists' using the confederate flag as a symbol for their hatred when so many people died fighting for what it REALLY stood for just as many die now, from that same area, for hte US flag.

There is absolutely no reason and no excuse for anyone born and raised above the mason dixon line to fly that flag, they do it for purposes of hatred, and NOTHING else.

Excellent post
QUOTE(Whirlwind @ Oct 17 2007, 10:13 PM)
I have one of those flags, too.

Why?

If not for racist purposes, WHY do YOU have one of those flags?

It should be forcibly taken from you by southerners who are sick of you using THEIR heritage as a message of hatred.
QUOTE(erstwhile @ Oct 20 2007, 11:21 AM)
Akron. .

please say you aren't speaking of "Akron Ohio", but instead, of some "Akron" that is actually southern. Ohio isn't even close to being southern and isn't much different from Lancater County.

Just clarifying.
The borders for "The South" are the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers over to the Mason-Dixon line and it ends at the Florida border. Florida is "part of New Jersey that broke off and floated down".

LancCitizen
QUOTE(LancCitizen @ Oct 21 2007, 10:26 AM)

The borders for "The South" are the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers over to the Mason-Dixon line and it ends at the Florida border. Florida is "part of New Jersey that broke off and floated down".



florida is also the only place in the united states where you have to drive north to get to the south.

justplainjoe
QUOTE(LancCitizen @ Oct 21 2007, 10:26 AM)
please say you aren't speaking of "Akron Ohio", but instead, of some "Akron" that is actually southern. Ohio isn't even close to being southern and isn't much different from Lancater County.

Akron is just south of Ephrata.
I saw a van today plastered with confederate flag bumper stickers. I read them all, just 'cause and found one highly offensive. It was a confederate flag with the words "no flag ever had better or braver soldiers". I was half-tempted to run the clown off the road, and judging by the condition of the van, I'd have been doing him a favor. Oh yeah, PA license plate.
twinmom
just got back from a tour of Great Britain and Ireland.

two questions...
was the CONFEDERATE FLAG USED TO CREATE RACIAL Tension AT THE SCHOOL OR WAS IT used merely as a symbol of states seceding from the union?
was the flag OVERTLY in the presence of a BLACK audience or randomly flying?
thanks

Slave state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_states
Daisy Lee Myers
Wow! Being born outside the USA but spending most of my life here I always kinda liked the "stars and bars" thought it an historical symbol of a war long ago. I will state that having a child/children in the public school system has given me an inside look and feel for their plight. There is much hatred toward the "white" American born children. Some kids just want to kill all Americans, think them all ignorant and weak, others just think the "whitey" should sit down and shut up. My child/children are neither ignorant nor weak and have rights. They are not "crackers" and should be protected by the rules and regulations, these should be imposed on all students. My point-the tension in the school systems across the state is so thick it could be cut with a knife-if you are smart or slow, rich or poor, black or white, athletic or not, involved with your school or not, The School Staff should protect the rights and welfare of each and every student. Until those in "authority" stop pickin and choosin and look at each situation with their eyes closed and ears and minds open nothing will get better and any change will only bring more hostility and tension.
thinkin
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