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Conference ponders Hitler's support
MU Holocaust event recounts popularity of Nazi positions.
Lancaster New Era
Published: Apr 03, 2008
10:20 EST
By DAVID O’CONNOR, Staff

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QUOTE(Bigby_M @ Apr 6 2008, 07:43 AM)


Lydsol, You seem to have this propensity to twist things around, either by design or by an innate inabilty to understand what people have to say.

This is evident on other threads as in this one.

Once more and s-l-o-w-ly. I did not say there were no contributions by Germany, I said I cannot recall any major ones in the larger context of world developement.

Monotheism was a binding centralizing force in the organizing of society at that time. Whereas there were other cultures that had a degree of monotheism none were like Judaism. This had an eneormous impact on the developement of their people and when compared to the simple Germans you can see why the Germans pale in comparison.

To discount Judaism as you do is someone ludicrous.
The accomplishments of the Jews are too numerous to list. We can talk about how they organized the economies of Europe toward the middle of the last millenium, while Germans were doing God knows what,and how when they were thrown out the economies collapsed.

Germany was a backwards country until relativelyyrecently in their long history, and then their contribution seems to be two World Wars and some banging good beer and nice cars.


If they are soo numourous to list then you should have no problem putting more than just monotheisim. I nerer discounted Judism, i simply asked you to give me a list of what they've contribued. But you still haven't done that. But once again you accuse me of something then yourself do the same thing. I asked you to awnser a simple question. I wasn't dogging the Jews at all, i simply asked since you couldn't think of anything the Germans contributed and you knew alot the Jews contributed, i simply asked you to list them. But the only thing you listed was monothesism and can't think of anything else. And once again you don't awnser my question you just keep saying the Germans were a backwards country. Monothesism was not the binding force to create government/organization at the time. If you consider that tiny section of the world everyone, maybe. Funny how i never said the Jews didn't contribute anything but you continue to dog the Germans as backwards, simple etc.

You seem to have a real loose grip on any type of history, so why don't you go do some reading and come back when you actually know what your talking about. And i'll be waiting for you to come back with more contributions the Jews made.

QUOTE(Bigby_M @ Apr 6 2008, 07:43 AM)

To whom is the concept of zero in mathmatics attributed? Certainly not the Germans.They were kind of late arriving on the scene were they not?

Who developed astronomy ,astrology, and other arts and sciences?

A white guy sitting in some cave in the middle of Europe?

No sir they were many centuries behind the curve.

Check and check mate!



Once again there Bigby, read up on your history. The concept of zero was "discovered" by the Indians(Hindus). And what did that even have to do with Whirls post? Just making stuff up now are we? And please do tell me who developed arts, sciences astronomy and astrology? I mean since you seem to know so much correct information.
Lysol54
My mother-in-law was a young girl in Nazi Germany and seems to remember that the gory details of the crimes against humanity were kept under wraps because Hitler controlled the press. He would trumpet all the great things were being accomplished by the government for the good of the people like low unemployment, for instance.
The average person may have been largely ignorant. In contrast and interestingly enough, achedemia here and abroad tended to defend and support socialist dictatorships with great intentions in spite of the horrific collateral damage they inflicted on the people over which they rule. Is this presentation a departure from that tradition? One can only hope!

Nativeson
"My mother-in-law was a young girl in Nazi Germany and seems to remember that the gory details of the crimes against humanity were kept under wraps because Hitler controlled the press." Nativeson

Ever heard of word of mouth? This is an especially entertaining version, coming from one who lives with the current Western press. Simply what is said in reply to "how could you not protest such brutalities?" "We didn't know". Could be because there was nothing to know. Concentration camps were not a German invention, nor were they the only country to employ them. We need look no further than our own backyard. Did people die? Yes. Was this a systematic plan to erase the world's Jews, preposterous. What did the Russians do with the Jews they exposed to pograms? Bullet in the back of the head on sight. Who wrote the history of that era? The victors (if anyone can be said to have "won" that war), and they have a decidely anti-German bent. Zionism requires that the story continue, it is their pass for any foul behavior they indulge in. Handily covers their "contribution" to the war, mostly backstage intrigues.

Bigby_M, you apparently believe the history of humanity as taught in school. And you keep trying to impress us with the things you can recall. Too bad you've committed a forgery to memory. I suggest you start by trying to find out what skin tone the Sumerians had, the very source of all current knowledge. Go back, what came before? Indo-Aryans is another term you may want to familiarize yourself with.

Ever heard of The Holy Roman Empire? Not Italian, bub.

Whirlwind
QUOTE(Bigby_M @ Apr 3 2008, 08:42 PM)


Are you serious that President Kennedy admired Adolph Hitler? That seems like a very strange thing to say.Could you please give a link or reference for that?

I find it hard to belive anyone could admire a dufus like Hitler.

Wasn't he the guy who thought he could invade Russia in the winter?

Oy Vey what a scmuck.

Maybe he never heard of Napoleon or something?

And aren't the Germans the one race of no accomplishment in their history? Sure they were barbarians for much of their history but did they invent anything useful like the train or the light bulb?

What have the Germans given us other than good beer and fast cars.Anything lasting?

I am trying to think of something, anything.


I am not a fan of Hitler, but to say Germans never invented anything is an outright lie and is just as wrong as those who go to the opposite extreme.

Mercury vapor lamp, microphone, gramophone, first scientific pregnancy test, MP3, cathode ray tube, diesel engine, syphilis treatment, alcohol thermometer, moveable type, balance spring (clocks), Aspirin, Amonia refridgerator, mach number to measure speed, x-rays, decaffinated coffee, first programmable computer, Zepplin, just to name a few.

Germans made a mistake in following Hitler, just as we made a mistake in following bush (even though many of us didn't follow him, including me). That does not take away from their scientific accomplishments.
http://germanoriginality.com/madein/inventions.php
SurLaLune
BORN OF PROPAGANDA: "It must be brought home to the American people that much of what they have been led to believe was born of propaganda. That the Germany Army, for example, actually behaved itself very correctly toward the people of occupied territories whose governments were signatories to the Hague and Geneva Conventions. The facts are now well known, and are beyond dispute, despite the opposite picture painted in the Press as part of the horrendous business of war."
Ralph Franklin Keeling, Institute of American Economics, Chicago, 1970
Whirlwind
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