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Marriage measure splits crowd
Intelligencer Journal
Published: Apr 30, 2008
01:15 EST
Commonwealth Ave, Harrisburg
By DAVE PIDGEON, Staff

The state Senate Appropriations Committee hosted a contentious meeting Tuesday morning as advocates and opponents fought over a proposed constitutional ban on same-sex marriages.

The amendment, authored by Sen. Michael W. Brubaker, a Lititz-area Republican, recognizes only man-woman unions as marriage or the "functional equivalent" of marriage.

Opponents of the amendment said they believe it would have disastrous consequences not just for homosexuals but also for non-married seniors who live together.

"We do believe this destructive and flawed amendment could (harm) so many lives, young and old," said Karen Buck, executive director of SeniorLaw Center in Philadelphia.

Advocates for the proposed amendment, however, said the 27 states that currently have similar marriage amendments in their constitutions have experienced no such problems. They said the proposed amendment doesn't change current law, which already bans gay marriage.

Teresa Stanton Collett, a law professor at the University of St. Thomas in Minnesota, called such concerns "phantom fears."

"The reality of the situation is that gay-rights activists are persistently demanding the courts disregard the text of the laws as well as the political will of the people in efforts to remake the institution of marriage to suit their particular political views," Collett wrote in prepared testimony delivered to the committee.

Amending the state constitution requires the approval of the House and Senate in two successive two-year sessions of the General Assembly. Then voters must approve the proposed amendment in a statewide referendum.

The appropriations committee held its hearing on the amendment because it would cost taxpayer money to hold a referendum.

The hearing room was jammed with about 120 adults and some children, who listened to discussions about constitutional law, morality, religion and sex. Many audience members wore lime-green buttons inscribed with "Protect Marriage," while others held red signs reading "Marriage is not a gay crime."

The emotional level of the hearing escalated anytime state Sen. Vince Fumo, a Philadelphia Democrat, aimed sharp questions at amendment supporters who testified.

The crowd occasionally jeered Fumo, and one man yelled, "Religious people have rights, too," prompting appropriations chairman Sen. Gibson Armstrong, a Refton Republican, to warn the crowd against unruly conduct.

There was one testy exchange between Fumo and Bishop Gilbert Coleman of Freedom Christian Bible Fellowship, a church in the Democrat's district.

Coleman said America has lost its moral compass since the church was taken out of government and schools, and he went on to say legalizing marriages other than heterosexual unions would erode a "foundational pillar" of this country.

"This nation finds no problem in abandoning its beliefs and morals to conform to the wants and desires of a few people that believe we should throw away the foundation and opt for a new one," Coleman said. "America was established on biblical principles that anchored and governed this nation until government decided that the Bible and its teachings are unconstitutional; thus we began a downward spiral. … "

Fumo took exception to Coleman's comments.

"Look at those people," Fumo said, pointing to several openly gay members of the Rainbow Rose Community, a Lancaster-based group opposed to the amendment, "and say you want to discriminate against them. They're just as human as you are.

"You want your civil rights as a minority," Fumo went on to say. "They want their rights as a gay minority."

"These are not civil rights," Coleman said. "These are moral rights."

As Coleman departed, he said in a barely audible voice to Fumo, "Go read your Bible," which prompted the Democrat to say, "I'll go read the Constitution."

While much of the debate Tuesday focused on how the amendment would affect homosexual relationships, Buck raised a question about how it would affect seniors.

Buck said the words "functional equivalent" would invalidate a senior couple's civil-union status, legal in places like New Jersey, should they move to Pennsylvania.

"If this amendment passes, seniors may lose their pension benefits, their Social Security, even their homes," Buck said. "They may lose their right to inherit. This amendment could eliminate property rights, financial supports, health coverage and the right to make health care decisions about loved ones. It may indeed cause poverty and even homelessness."

Collett earlier said such fears were unfounded because Pennsylvania courts had previously upheld those rights for unmarried people, and amending the state Constitution would not change that.

Reiss W. Potterveld, president of Lancaster Theological Seminary, also testified.

The proposal "is a step backward into language of denial, devaluing, delegitimizing, and in its simple wording, in my opinion, conceals a well-spring of toxic and prejudicial feeling," Potterveld said.

E-mail: dpidgeon@lnpnews.com


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QUOTE(Scubabike420 @ Apr 30 2008, 02:51 PM)


I like to think of him as a Republican who has chosen states' rights over pushing his conservative views on social issues at the federal level. He does share many of the same views with his fellow Republicans on social issues but respects the Constitution too much to use the Federal government as a tool to force those opinions on the nation. On a personal level he does not support gay marriage but understands that it is not a subject the federal government has any business getting involved with. In his opinion it is a matter for each state to address.

You can think of him as whatever you like, hes a lot more Libertarian than he is Republican. Even old school Republicans(Lincoln) were for a strong Federal Government. Almost all of his views are Libertarian in nature. The only thing he seems to have in common with Republicans is a few social issues. I think if he would have been true to himself and ran as a 3rd party he would have had a lot better luck. I agree with some stuff he says but dont' sit there and say your a Republican when your clearly not. At least not like everyone else in the Party.

Lysol54
QUOTE(littledutchboy @ Apr 30 2008, 02:28 PM)


How wrong is that? You think you are on the "high road" doesn't sound like it.


No, Little Dutch Boy, I don't think I am on the high road. I don't think I am better than anybody. I said I want to show compassion, kindness and tolerance for ALL people. You can take that however you want, I meant is just like I said it. Believe it or not, I don't even think I am better than you. I obviously feel differently, I just choose to prove it in different ways. Soon I will find an opportunity to treat someone that others view as unacceptable or ungodly or sinful and I will show them kindness. You can keep on doing what you do to people you find different than yourself and I'll do my thing.

dee
QUOTE(Scubabike420 @ Apr 30 2008, 12:57 PM)


I don't think we should permit gay marriage because I feel homosexuality is not normal and should not be promoted as such.

Man, how many times do we have to go here....Having diabetes isn't considered normal either. Are you saying diabetics shouldn't get married 'cuz then we would be promoting diabetes? Sounds stupid, huh? Don't start with the procreation argument since we've already established that there are straight people who can't reproduce either.
Allowing gay people to marry or not allowing them to marry is not going to change the fact that there are homosexual people. There always were, and always will be. They are not going to just go away even if they can't get married. Sorry to break it to you.

catgrr8
QUOTE(Scubabike420 @ Apr 30 2008, 12:57 PM)


Yes, I am a registered Republican but only recently changed so I could vote for Ron Paul in the primary. I was a registered Democrate, I do not go to church and I'm listening to a Grateful Dead show that was recorded in 1970 so you can forget about your usual stereotypes. I don't think we should permit gay marriage because I feel homosexuality is not normal and should not be promoted as such.


I don't know scuba, you and I don't agree on anything but.... it is really difficult for me to be annoyed with a person who listens to bookleg Grateful Dead.

tugrad
QUOTE(tugrad @ May 4 2008, 08:27 PM)


I don't know scuba, you and I don't agree on anything but.... it is really difficult for me to be annoyed with a person who listens to bookleg Grateful Dead.



Plus he refused to get sucked into the 3-stooges show, and voted for Ron Paul!

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