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3 hurt as buggy, pickup collide in East Lampeter
In separate crash, Holtwood man injured critically near Mount Nebo.
Lancaster New Era
May 13, 2008 11:26 EST
Lancaster
By JOHN M. HOOBER III, Staff

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QUOTE(lanco @ May 15 2008, 09:21 AM)

What you need to realize is that a restraint system WOULD NOT WORK in the current buggies. They are made mostly from wood and we all know what happens to wood when hit. So in other words we would have people still flying out but with seat belts around them. I am not Amish but I do have some close family that is. I take every chance I have to talk to them about the driving.

Lets face it they will not be going away. It is going to be a fact of life in Lanco. What we need to do is be aware of them and use caution. Also as I said there is some education needed for them as well.

One more thing before I end this. If we really wanted to I think we could all put a list together of people that are not fit to be on the road.

The key here is to EDUCATE those that are a hazard not just remove them!

PS- One more thing. What is the diff between those in buggies or those on cycles? Both are unrestrained. Both of them make the choice to be there. And both of them require us to use caution around them.

What YOU need to ralize is that if something is not/will not work then changes need to be made so that a restraint system will work. How many people have to be injured or killed before someone steps up to take the intiative to get changes made?? Education will only go only so far and I am certainly not implying the Amish/Mennonites need to go away. What I am saying is that more needs to be done to protect them and if that means changing the designs/construction of the buggies then so be it. I saw comments on here about "personal responisibility", well that goes BOTH ways. We, the car drivers needs to be aware and use caution but the Amish/Mennonites also need to do their part too. As for bike riders, I am cautious around them too but also am an advocate for protective gear being worn anytime they are on the roads!!!!

babblu429
QUOTE(babblu429 @ May 15 2008, 05:50 PM)

What YOU need to ralize is that if something is not/will not work then changes need to be made so that a restraint system will work. How many people have to be injured or killed before someone steps up to take the intiative to get changes made?? Education will only go only so far and I am certainly not implying the Amish/Mennonites need to go away. What I am saying is that more needs to be done to protect them and if that means changing the designs/construction of the buggies then so be it.


Change? How dare you swear like that on a public forum. Think of the people riding in buggies as pedestrians and they'll be safe around you.

Nativeson
QUOTE(LicenseForMayhem @ May 15 2008, 12:55 PM)


Aww, that's nice that they came to visit. We have a busdriver my kids just love, too. He hands out candy now and then and looks--in my son's estimation, anyway--like Jerry Garcia. And then there's the afternoon lady, who should be driving a broom instead of a bus...

Jerry Garcia driving the bus? What a long strange trip that must be.
Anyway, I thought Neil Cassidy was the driver...

BuffaloBill
QUOTE(Beth @ May 15 2008, 01:00 PM)

I have 5 boxes of candy I just bought to hand out when I get back. Snickers, Milkyways, 3 Musketeers, and plain old Hershey's Choc. bar. Milkyways usually win hands down!


Me, I'm a Snickers kind of gal. So....what route am I looking for again?
QUOTE(Nativeson @ May 15 2008, 06:55 PM)


Change? How dare you swear like that on a public forum. Think of the people riding in buggies as pedestrians and they'll be safe around you.



I see Babblu's point. Even if she did her part, there's still some jacka$$e$ out there that would use less caution; I see those drivers using less caution when I'm in my car with my children and it makes me nervous for our safety. I believe the amish & Old Order Mennonites should be able to live as they wish, but I also think there's merit to adopting restraint systems if they can be designed appropriately.

BeingReal
QUOTE(BuffaloBill @ May 15 2008, 07:07 PM)

Jerry Garcia driving the bus? What a long strange trip that must be.
Anyway, I thought Neil Cassidy was the driver...



Thankfully, Neil isn't driving my kids' bus. Although my son has read the book and would probably find that cool, he's one of those invincible-only- in-their-own-minds 14-year-olds with poor judgment.
LicenseForMayhem
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