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Smoking-ban bill is back on the table
Mayors call for local control
Intelligencer Journal
Published: May 28, 2008
01:03 EST
By DAVE PIDGEON, Staff

Mayor Rick Gray
 
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Snuffed out just a couple weeks ago, the debate over a proposed statewide smoking ban in public areas is about to light up again.

The six-member legislative conference committee charged with drawing up a bill that the state House and Senate would approve is scheduled to meet twice next week.

It's not clear where things stand with the issue that scuttled compromise legislation two weeks ago — whether local municipalities should be permitted to enact stiffer prohibitions than whatever the state law might turn out to be.

Lancaster Mayor Rick Gray thinks they should.

"If the people at the state level don't have it together and they just want to do some innocuous type of ban, absolutely, the local municipalities should have the right to up the standard," Gray said Tuesday.

Gray has support among other Lancaster County chief executives, including Columbia Mayor Leo Lutz, Mount Joy Mayor Mary Ginder and Lititz Mayor Russell Pettyjohn.

"I believe it's our responsibility to do whatever we have to do to enact laws and ordinances to ensure the health and safety and welfare of the people we represent," Lutz said. "If the federal and state government does not enact laws that local officials feel fulfill that requirement, the local officials should enact stiffer laws."

Ginder, who is a nurse practitioner, agreed.

"If people seriously believe smoking is a serious health hazard, then I do believe they have the right to say, 'Yes, we do not want that in certain locations in that town.' "

Pettyjohn said if boroughs, townships and cities are not permitted to enact their own ordinances, then "We're no longer a commonwealth."

Despite all the talk about local control over how tough to make a smoking prohibition, Republican state Rep. Bryan Cutler says he doesn't want a patchwork system in Pennsylvania with different municipalities with different rules.

"You could go down to Philly and not know what you can do and could inadvertently break the law," said Cutler, a member of the state House Health & Human Services Committee.

"If smoking's bad, then let's have a ban," Cutler added. "But let's not say some should have it and some shouldn't. My biggest concern is — are we picking winners and losers?"

Pennsylvania remains without a smoking ban even though five of the six bordering states — Delaware, New Jersey, New York, Maryland and Ohio — have them, with some exemptions, such as casinos. West Virginia does not.

"It defines Pennsylvania as in the backwater," Gray said. "Smoking, if you look at the old (Humphrey) Bogart movies, was really in vogue. It's gone out of vogue."

The state House and Senate each passed bills banning smoking in public places, but there were differences involving exemptions, so the bills had to go to a conference committee.

The issue of whether to allow local municipalities to enact stiffer prohibitions than what comes out of the conference committee scuttled a potential compromise bill May 12 when Gov. Ed Rendell threatened to veto it.

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The conference committee is scheduled to meet Tuesday and Wednesday of next week.

Messages left with state Sen. Chuck McIlhinney, the Montgomery County Republican who authored the compromise bill earlier this month, and Democratic Senate Minority Leader Bob Mellow were not returned Tuesday.

Both are members of the conference committee.

E-mail: dpidgeon@lnpnews.com


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QUOTE(Shawn @ May 29 2008, 11:25 PM)

Are you now trying to rationalize drinking and driving? Wow.
Later...Shawn


Beth
QUOTE(pml @ Jun 3 2008, 09:47 AM)
No, if cigarettes were ILLEGAL and no longer taxed like marijuana, people would go to the cotner drug dealer or roll their own and stay home BUT the government will never OUTLAW cigarettes because of the huge tax revenue they enjoy from us criminal smokers who simply want to enjoy our very expensive legal product on an outside deck with our cocktails and highly fattening artery clogging food.


Enjoy your cigarette? You smoke because you are adicted and too weak to quit..You can't even quit for a few hours.

If you could, you wouldn't be bitchin about not smoking while you are out getting drunk in some dive.

You have to smoke all the time.

That's a pretty lame excuse for poisoning everyone else.

Sorry but there are other people in the world and they have more sense than to smoke.
Bigby_M
QUOTE(pml @ Jun 3 2008, 10:03 AM)

But Big Mac that would be like me saying that since I am not gay I don;t care about gay rights because they don;t affect me personally. I have always said if I quit smoking I will not become BOBER. My husbadn quit years ago and to this day smoking does not bother him in the least. He truly believes when your time is up it is up and while I am not ultra religious I hear of people missing planes that crash and other people going back in the house to check the iron and being killed in a car crash when if they hadn;t done that one little thing, they would still be alive. I have heard of miracle cures that doctors can not explain and of routine surgery going terribly wrong. I believe you do not die one minute sooner than God wants you to no matter how you live your life.


Yup. You will live just as long. You will just WISH you were dead -- emphysema feels like you are suffocating, lung cancer too, plus throw in that heart attack, open heart surgery, scars from ankle to groin for the grafts, then add hardening of the arteries...

All so you can just keep hangin' on and screamin' for YOUR RIGHTS. Yup. You have the right to make yourself just as sick and miserable as you want to.
AngelFace
QUOTE(pml @ May 28 2008, 10:44 AM)
The point is give them a hand and they want the arm and that means that smoking will be basically illegal and therefore like marijuana and cocaine should not be taxed so the government profits from smokers while also discriminating against them.

AMEN!!!

staysea
QUOTE(staysea @ Jun 3 2008, 09:33 PM)

AMEN!!!



http://www.wgal.com/news/16477955/detail.html

Looks like these guys are dropping the ball again... THIS IS NOT A TOTAL SMOKING BAN!
BARS HOTELS AND CASINOS ARE WORKLPLACES TOO!
NOT TO MENTION THAT LOCAL GOVERNMNETS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO UP THE ANTI BUT PHILLY GETS TO DO WHAT THEY PLEASE...
AGAIN I WOULDN"T HAVE EXPECED ANYTHING LESS THAN A MEAGER WATERED DOWN VERSION A SMOKING BAN FROM OUR WONDERFUL PA LEGISLATORS!
Bober40
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