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Trouble follows head of F&M home
It was the week the college and an alternative newspaper collided.
Sunday News
Jun 08, 2008 00:20 EST
Lancaster
By GIL SMART, Editor

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QUOTE(Bigby_M @ Jun 11 2008, 02:08 PM)


Artie the facts are that Harper printed a story that was untrue. What kind of tabloid journalist prints a story impugning ther integrity of a community leader without even bothering to check if it was true?

You are the one who loks like a fool always whining about elected officials and integrity.

Your hatred of Fry has blinded you. The story is not about the reaction of F&M security it is about the truth which you have totally ignored.

You have no integrity Artie. That paper has no integrity.

Your rants are just hot gas.

I tried to warn you and you blame the messenger.

You are exactly like the people you rant and rave against.

Yeah you know the facts, as told by Harper.

Note from Ron Harper, Jr.,

Post News Editor:

Lancaster County District Attorney, Craig Stedman,

contacted me as we were going to press. Mr. Stedman

said that neither he nor anyone from his office has

communicated with the school or anyone associated with

the school over the charges involving the F&M students.
Bigs reply:

Harper should apologize...to Mr. Fry and to his readers. Apparently the DA called Harper and told him there was no truth to Harpers assertions that the F&M students got preferential treatment.
My reply: Not one word in that paragragh mentions anything about Harper or Steadman speaking of giving preferential treatment to those students.

It simply states that no one from his office had any communication with F&M regarding the charges.
He patiently answered my multiple questions regarding contact

with the school, and said that not only wasn’t there any

contact directly, there was no third party contact, either. Mr.

Stedman’s comments should be weighed and considered by

our readers.
Bigs reply: None
My reply:

I see this paragragh as a compliment to Steadman's patience and willingness to cooperate with the press.

He is also stating that he is unaware of anyone outside his office discussing the issue with F&M's officials.

Then Harper is simply stating that Steadman's comments may or may not be true, and that we should get all the facts and formulate our own opinions.
I must add that Mr. Stedman has been generous with his

time and patience with my questions and responded quickly

with an understanding of newspaper deadlines. (He even

responded last week during a break from his Memorial Day
celebration, which was also appreciated.)
Bigs reply: None
My reply:

Mr Harper is again complimenting Steadman's generosity with his time and patience with his questions. Also, the next line indicates to me that Harper made the initial phone call to the DA's office and evidently Mr steadman was not available to take the call. The part about his quick response indicates to me that Harper left a voice mail for a return call and left a press deadline in the message.
Bigs reply:

The DA contacted Harper?????

So Harper never called anyone at the DAs office to verify that the kids got special treatment and instead went with a story libeling Mr Fry without any eveidence whatsoever?

Shame on Harper and his supporters.

It gets worse. Harper apparently was told by DA Steadman that no special treatment was given to these kids over memorial day, yet despite knowing the truth he continued to stalk and harrass Mr. Fry based on a story he knew was untrue.

Apparently the truth is a victim of Harpers newspaper.

I would suggest a public apology by Harper followed by Artie See explaining why he doesn't resign given the truth we now know.

Shame on Harper for all his trouble making based on lies.
My reply to Bigs reply:

District Attorneys are not in the habit of calling the people of the press just because they like 'em. Ron Harper made the call to them first.
So where are the lies Bigs ?
And as any good newspaper editor knows to do, is have both the posititve and the negative story ready to go at press time.
Now please Bigs, stop harpin' on ths post. You didn't read it right, which brings me to what I said before.

Lack of education, Bigby M is unable to comprehend or retain what he reads.
frankomav47
I will answer some questions again that I answered before but I guess some people can't understand what I wrote. First off, Harper reported that two kids were caught stealing some beer from a bar. They are F&M students. They have no prior record and were charged with burglary. Harper gets all excited because he did read anything about it in the LNP. HARPER says there is a coverup. That the kids are getting special treatment because they are getting ARD. Well folks with no prior record they qualify for the ARD program. I can't even guess how many time I submitted a news release and never saw anything in the paper about it. LNP publishes what it wants to and if there isn't enough room in the paper for an article it gets left out, need that advettising money first and foremost. Sorry, but I don't se what the big deal is. Now he bugs the pres. of F&M several times and is given notice not to come on F&M property. Now it gets reported to F&M security that Harper trespasssed at the pres. house which is F&M property. Security responds to the scene and see Harper across the street fromk the pres. residence. They proceeded over to Harper to give him a citation for trespass and from that point on we don't know what happened. Harper has his side and the college has there side. None of us were there so we can only go by what both parties are saying. One critical point is that Harper and his business partner put a paper dispenser in front of the pres. residence. Now Harper is free to do that but you must ask the question, why put it at that location. Will the dispenser be empty in a matter of minutes or are the papers going to be there for a very long time. I can think of ten thousand better locations for that dispenser than the one Harper chose. Could it be that Harper was baiting the pres.? We all know Harper, what do you think. I want to see Harper's paper become a success but I want him to tackle issues that are important to the people of Lancaster Co. not some half !profanity!ed article about two spoiled Manheim Twp. brats.
groundpounder
WOW, FRANK!!!! Point/counterpoint???? (post #240) I love it ...
AngelFace
QUOTE(AngelFace @ Jun 11 2008, 08:51 PM)

WOW, FRANK!!!! Point/counterpoint????


Angelface you ignorant $lut.
citydweller
QUOTE(groundpounder @ Jun 11 2008, 08:42 PM)
I will answer some questions again that I answered before but I guess some people can't understand what I wrote. First off, Harper reported that two kids were caught stealing some beer from a bar. They are F&M students. They have no prior record and were charged with burglary. Harper gets all excited because he did read anything about it in the LNP. HARPER says there is a coverup. That the kids are getting special treatment because they are getting ARD. Well folks with no prior record they qualify for the ARD program. I can't even guess how many time I submitted a news release and never saw anything in the paper about it. LNP publishes what it wants to and if there isn't enough room in the paper for an article it gets left out, need that advettising money first and foremost. Sorry, but I don't se what the big deal is. Now he bugs the pres. of F&M several times and is given notice not to come on F&M property. Now it gets reported to F&M security that Harper trespasssed at the pres. house which is F&M property. Security responds to the scene and see Harper across the street fromk the pres. residence. They proceeded over to Harper to give him a citation for trespass and from that point on we don't know what happened. Harper has his side and the college has there side. None of us were there so we can only go by what both parties are saying. One critical point is that Harper and his business partner put a paper dispenser in front of the pres. residence. Now Harper is free to do that but you must ask the question, why put it at that location. Will the dispenser be empty in a matter of minutes or are the papers going to be there for a very long time. I can think of ten thousand better locations for that dispenser than the one Harper chose. Could it be that Harper was baiting the pres.? We all know Harper, what do you think. I want to see Harper's paper become a success but I want him to tackle issues that are important to the people of Lancaster Co. not some half !profanity!ed article about two spoiled Manheim Twp. brats.

Very nice post.

LancCity
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