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ACLU upset by rally rules
Calls city's policy on rallies, other events unconstitutional; new guidelines this week.
Sunday News
Jul 20, 2008 00:16 EST
Lancaster
By PAUL FRANZ, Staff

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QUOTE(Bober40 @ Jul 21 2008, 09:12 AM)
One would have to be blind not to know that the ACLU only protects things that are anti American and those who are not christian.

Bober40 you're about as clueless as they come...

Just read Part I - Defending the Rights of Those Identifying Themselves as Christian

http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/2...es20060824.html

Then go onto Part II.
GeezUS
QUOTE(reasonableone @ Jul 21 2008, 07:20 AM)

as much as I hate most of the organizations you cited, that the ACLU might have stood up for, the underlying principle is very simple.

you and I can't be the ones deciding which groups are free to speak and which aren't.

once any person or groups of persons is given the authority to make those choices, then you never know who is going to be deprived of their rights.

so as much as i hate the nazis and the klan and the man-boy lovers and all the rest, if they are denied the right to speak, the next group denied could be the christians or the artists or the farmers or the vegetarians or the republicans or any other group.

so we gotta let the people we don't like express their views or soon we won't be able to express ours.

its really simple and its work for america for a couple of hundred years and nobody has come up with a better document than the constitution.


Hot diggity! Someone posting who lives up to their name! Truly reasonable.
I guess I wonder even about the need to plan everything AHEAD -- permits, schedules, estimated numbers, etc. What if a group of friends just decided, spur of the moment, to use the Square in Lancaster to hold up peace signs, light candles, speak, or <gasp> pray? Isn't that what the Constitution guarantees us? I know the city prefers otherwise, but aren't our rights our rights, and didn't one of the signers say, As long as we can hold on to them!
AngelFace
thank you.

this really conflicts me, but the doctrine is simple.

if you want the right to be christian or republican or anything else pure and good and speak your words freely, you gotta let those you hate do the same.

even those damn liberals.
reasonableone
QUOTE(Bober40 @ Jul 20 2008, 10:39 PM)
The ACLU is the most dangerous organization in the history of America.
I disagree. Rush Limbaugh is far more dangerous than the ACLU.

Never before has a recovering drug addict been taken so seriously by so many.

(I know, GW Bush is a recovering alcoholic. But some people say booze isn't drugs.)
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QUOTE(AngelFace @ Jul 22 2008, 12:53 AM)

I guess I wonder even about the need to plan everything AHEAD -- permits, schedules, estimated numbers, etc. What if a group of friends just decided, spur of the moment, to use the Square in Lancaster to hold up peace signs, light candles, speak, or <gasp> pray? Isn't that what the Constitution guarantees us? I know the city prefers otherwise, but aren't our rights our rights, and didn't one of the signers say, As long as we can hold on to them!


I think the new rules are supposed to allow for just a two-day process for a protest, vigil, rally, or whathaveyou that is planned in response to some recent event. I don't think the example you give would be a problem if it was just a group of friends on the spur of the moment and not some advertised event designed to draw crowds.
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