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2 lives, 2 guns: Inside the deadly confrontation
Surveillance video, interviews reveal new details about botched robbery — and the people involved.
Lancaster New Era
Jul 23, 2008 11:55 EST
Manheim
By TOM MURSE and DAN RORABAUGH, Staff

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I feel sorry for your loss.

However, there are others who do not make excuses for sons for whom they sweated and labored to help. Once you do your best for 18 years, it is time for the person to navigate the systems on their own and sink or swim.

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A friend of mine had two easy successful children and one who was a lot of work [with diagnoses, also] and sweat until he was well into his thirties. He got busted for disturbances but never for a weapons charge. The Mom did all she could within the law to help him. He is doing okay one day at a time as far as I know.

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There is another family who had to tell their grandchild that he will always be Loved but that if he had come to them before he did a deed that got him in prison for life, they could have helped him. Now, they told him, it is too late. He killed his parents and siblings. He will suffer what he deserves.

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Those left behind suffer but you need to know that the law is for everyone. Every Mother, Father and Grandparent who suffers feels helpless but must give up the evil-doer to the laws of society. Otherwise, we send a poor message to the wonderful but misguided sons and daughters of Mothers, who follow after.

Wonder
QUOTE(Wonder @ Aug 18 2008, 03:43 PM)
I feel sorry for your loss.

However, there are others who do not make excuses for sons for whom they sweated and labored to help. Once you do your best for 18 years, it is time for the person to navigate the systems on their own and sink or swim.

********

A friend of mine had two easy successful children and one who was a lot of work [with diagnoses, also] and sweat until he was well into his thirties. He got busted for disturbances but never for a weapons charge. The Mom did all she could within the law to help him. He is doing okay one day at a time as far as I know.

********in not making excusses for him im saying that the system too him off his meds and wouldnt put him back on them even when he asked for help.the system knew he was mentally ill and needed his med and wouldnt give them to him.hopefully you and your kids had the perfect life growing up but this kid had a real bad start in life from being born a crack baby,to being bounced around in foster homes(learning not to bond because it hurt to much at the age of 3).so dont think Im making excusses I just want everyone that wants to cut down my son understand that this could have been avoided with the system.anyone that met him knew he had a lot of issues.I sure hope you never have to loss a child like I did and is you would that someone is nice enough to give you a call and tell you your child was killed.Not like me having to find out on the internet.

There is another family who had to tell their grandchild that he will always be Loved but that if he had come to them before he did a deed that got him in prison for life, they could have helped him. Now, they told him, it is too late. He killed his parents and siblings. He will suffer what he deserves.

*********

Those left behind suffer but you need to know that the law is for everyone. Every Mother, Father and Grandparent who suffers feels helpless but must give up the evil-doer to the laws of society. Otherwise, we send a poor message to the wonderful but misguided sons and daughters of Mothers, who follow after.

momhas3bozs
I am so sorry you had to hear of the death of your child on the internet, why the police didn't contact you is beyond unimaginable. For that, I am sorry.
dee
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I sure hope you never have to loss a child like I did and is you would that someone is nice enough to give you a call and tell you your child was killed.Not like me having to find out on the internet.
I am sorry you had to hear of his death this way.
Did you adopt him?

Wonder
QUOTE(momhas3bozs @ Aug 18 2008, 03:13 PM)
So we need to find the other guy thats the bad guy not my son.


I also want to add my condolences for the loss you and your husband experienced. It had to be incredibly hard to see him slipping and keeping bad company and I too hope the other guy is caught as well. There's no honor among thieves.

Nativeson
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