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Pa. court upholds gay-rally ruling
Intelligencer Journal
Published: Jul 25, 2008
01:22 EST
Lancaster
By MICHAEL YODER, Staff
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has upheld a decision by a lower court last year deeming a portion of the state's hate-crimes law unconstitutional.

Wednesday's ruling, initiated by a lawsuit involving Manheim Township resident Mark Diener, found that the Pennsylvania Legislature's altering of a 2002 crop-destruction bill into an amendment to the "ethnic intimidation" law violated Article III of the state's constitution.

The 2002 amendment, making crimes motivated by "sexual orientation," "gender identity" and other classes subject to greater punishment, was used to charge Diener, Jerry Fennell Jr. of Denver and nine other members of Repent America for protesting outside a gay-pride rally in Philadelphia in 2004.

Michael Marcavage, director of Repent America, called the decision a "victory for constitutional government" and the freedom to assemble peaceably in public and proclaim the gospel message in the public square.

Freedom of speech is "being shut down more and more with the establishment of free speech zones and all kinds of unconstitutional actions on behalf of government," Marcavage said. "It's very troublesome what's happening in our nation when it comes to freedom."

Members of Repent America were charged with violating Pennsylvania's Ethnic Intimidation Act when they disrupted the inaugural OutFest National Coming Out Day Block Party in 2004 with a bullhorn, preaching that homosexuality is a sin.

The arrests resulted in three felony and five misdemeanor charges for each defendant, who faced up to 47 years in prison and $90,000 in fines because of the expanded hate-crimes law.

The charges were dismissed by a Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas judge on the grounds that the defendants' speech was protected by the U.S. Constitution.

But because Repent America members stage similar protests and feared they could again be charged with the same crime, they filed their own lawsuit in 2005, challenging the constitutionality of the amendment to the hate-crimes law.

The Legislature's actions should raise concerns for all residents of the commonwealth, even if they disagree with his views, Marcavage said, adding that he thinks state legislators will be more careful when passing laws.

Marcavage said it was particularly troublesome to have the governor and the Legislature attempt to have the state Supreme Court overturn the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania's decision in November.

Marcavage said he believes hate-crime laws are unnecessary and unconstitutional and that the legislation is designed to intimidate people who want to speak out in public, especially evangelical Christians.

"The climate of this nation is allowing for these types of (arrests) to be happening," Marcavage said. "And we should all be very concerned about this because it's not only our rights that are being violated — they may come for us first — but there's too many examples across the country where people's rights are being violated. And it's really shameful."

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This entire subject is a gray issue with me. I have seen gays protesting in the same nature as the Repent America crew. Two wrongs don't make a right. If we take religion out of the equation completely then all we have is hate. It is not illegal to hate. People do it every day. It's how we act on that hate that makes it a crime or not. There has been decade long debates as to what is right and wrong in this area. For example, if someone were to call me a dyke and they were Italian and I called them a WOP the only person that gets fined and cited is me. I was told because it's an attack of ethnicity. The policeman told me they can call you anything they want because of your sexual orientation but you can't attack someones ethnicity. This is totally unacceptable to me, IMOO. Hate is hate-it knows no ethnicity. This brings us to the argument that they can't choose the color of their ethnicity but I can choose my sexual orientation. This particular officer told me that if I didn't want to be harrassed then maybe I should look more like a girl. The hatred is everywhere-even in law enforcement. I know that I should have done something about what he said because he humiliated me in front of one of my neighbors. That has to be some type of offense, lol. I guess I just can't understand why everyone can't just get it that we were all put here for the same purpose and we are all equal in Gods or our own eyes. Can't we all just get along?

Bigmaclender2
QUOTE(pml @ Jul 25 2008, 01:11 PM)
Speech may not be a crime but when an act of violence is committed against a person because of theri race, religion or sexual orientation, you bet it is a HATE CRIME. It is committed strictly because the person is who they are. I believe hate crime laws keep people in different persuasions safer because there is extra punishment added on.



If it were your son or daughter in that casket, would you feel the same way. A funeral is a private event unless it is a head of state or something. My God can people not even bury their dead without some fanatical idiot ruining it?


What about me? Where is my protection? If I get assaulted for none of the above reasons is my pain any less?
What ever happen to equal justice under the law? Hate crime laws are discriminatory and discrimination, singling out “special” groups for special treatment is un-American.
littledutchboy
QUOTE(littledutchboy @ Jul 28 2008, 09:59 AM)
What ever happen to equal justice under the law? Hate crime laws are discriminatory and discrimination, singling out "special" groups for special treatment is un-American.


Ahhhhhhhhhhh got it, so it is NOT ok for someone to receive special treatment for being different, but it IS ok for someone to have the crap beaten out of them or be killed for that same reason. Got it.

LDB, I never before truly understood what it means to be an American. Thank you for the enlightenment

Scout
QUOTE(Bigmaclender2 @ Jul 28 2008, 09:03 AM)

This entire subject is a gray issue with me. I have seen gays protesting in the same nature as the Repent America crew. Two wrongs don't make a right. If we take religion out of the equation completely then all we have is hate. It is not illegal to hate. People do it every day. It's how we act on that hate that makes it a crime or not. There has been decade long debates as to what is right and wrong in this area. For example, if someone were to call me a dyke and they were Italian and I called them a WOP the only person that gets fined and cited is me. I was told because it's an attack of ethnicity. The policeman told me they can call you anything they want because of your sexual orientation but you can't attack someones ethnicity. This is totally unacceptable to me, IMOO. Hate is hate-it knows no ethnicity. This brings us to the argument that they can't choose the color of their ethnicity but I can choose my sexual orientation. This particular officer told me that if I didn't want to be harrassed then maybe I should look more like a girl. The hatred is everywhere-even in law enforcement. I know that I should have done something about what he said because he humiliated me in front of one of my neighbors. That has to be some type of offense, lol. I guess I just can't understand why everyone can't just get it that we were all put here for the same purpose and we are all equal in Gods or our own eyes. Can't we all just get along?

is it ok to Hate Hate?
is it ok to Love Hate?
is it good to Hate evil?
is it good to Love evil?

who defines what is evil?
graphicsully
QUOTE(Scout @ Jul 28 2008, 09:06 AM)

Ahhhhhhhhhhh got it, so it is NOT ok for someone to receive special treatment for being different, but it IS ok for someone to have the crap beaten out of them or be killed for that same reason. Got it.

LDB, I never before truly understood what it means to be an American. Thank you for the enlightenment


Although I can't be sure, I don't think that is what LDB meant.

All violent crimes are hateful and should be deemed as hate crimes. And all crimes deserve equal justice. Choosing a special group of people, to receive more justice than the remainder of society, creates second class victims. That is what is un-American.
Goldilocks
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