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This entire subject is a gray issue with me. I have seen gays protesting in the same nature as the Repent America crew. Two wrongs don't make a right. If we take religion out of the equation completely then all we have is hate. It is not illegal to hate. People do it every day. It's how we act on that hate that makes it a crime or not. There has been decade long debates as to what is right and wrong in this area. For example, if someone were to call me a dyke and they were Italian and I called them a WOP the only person that gets fined and cited is me. I was told because it's an attack of ethnicity. The policeman told me they can call you anything they want because of your sexual orientation but you can't attack someones ethnicity. This is totally unacceptable to me, IMOO. Hate is hate-it knows no ethnicity. This brings us to the argument that they can't choose the color of their ethnicity but I can choose my sexual orientation. This particular officer told me that if I didn't want to be harrassed then maybe I should look more like a girl. The hatred is everywhere-even in law enforcement. I know that I should have done something about what he said because he humiliated me in front of one of my neighbors. That has to be some type of offense, lol. I guess I just can't understand why everyone can't just get it that we were all put here for the same purpose and we are all equal in Gods or our own eyes. Can't we all just get along?

QUOTE(pml @ Jul 25 2008, 01:11 PM)

Speech may not be a crime but when an act of violence is committed against a person because of theri race, religion or sexual orientation, you bet it is a HATE CRIME. It is committed strictly because the person is who they are. I believe hate crime laws keep people in different persuasions safer because there is extra punishment added on.

If it were your son or daughter in that casket, would you feel the same way. A funeral is a private event unless it is a head of state or something. My God can people not even bury their dead without some fanatical idiot ruining it?

What about me? Where is my protection? If I get assaulted for none of the above reasons is my pain any less?
What ever happen to equal justice under the law? Hate crime laws are discriminatory and discrimination, singling out “special” groups for special treatment is un-American.

QUOTE(littledutchboy @ Jul 28 2008, 09:59 AM)

What ever happen to equal justice under the law? Hate crime laws are discriminatory and discrimination, singling out "special" groups for special treatment is un-American.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh got it, so it is NOT ok for someone to receive special treatment for being different, but it IS ok for someone to have the crap beaten out of them or be killed for that same reason. Got it.

LDB, I never before truly understood what it means to be an American. Thank you for the enlightenment

QUOTE(Bigmaclender2 @ Jul 28 2008, 09:03 AM)

This entire subject is a gray issue with me. I have seen gays protesting in the same nature as the Repent America crew. Two wrongs don't make a right. If we take religion out of the equation completely then all we have is hate. It is not illegal to hate. People do it every day. It's how we act on that hate that makes it a crime or not. There has been decade long debates as to what is right and wrong in this area. For example, if someone were to call me a dyke and they were Italian and I called them a WOP the only person that gets fined and cited is me. I was told because it's an attack of ethnicity. The policeman told me they can call you anything they want because of your sexual orientation but you can't attack someones ethnicity. This is totally unacceptable to me, IMOO. Hate is hate-it knows no ethnicity. This brings us to the argument that they can't choose the color of their ethnicity but I can choose my sexual orientation. This particular officer told me that if I didn't want to be harrassed then maybe I should look more like a girl. The hatred is everywhere-even in law enforcement. I know that I should have done something about what he said because he humiliated me in front of one of my neighbors. That has to be some type of offense, lol. I guess I just can't understand why everyone can't just get it that we were all put here for the same purpose and we are all equal in Gods or our own eyes. Can't we all just get along?

is it ok to Hate Hate?
is it ok to Love Hate?
is it good to Hate evil?
is it good to Love evil?

who defines what is evil?

QUOTE(Scout @ Jul 28 2008, 09:06 AM)

Ahhhhhhhhhhh got it, so it is NOT ok for someone to receive special treatment for being different, but it IS ok for someone to have the crap beaten out of them or be killed for that same reason. Got it.

LDB, I never before truly understood what it means to be an American. Thank you for the enlightenment

Although I can't be sure, I don't think that is what LDB meant.

All violent crimes are hateful and should be deemed as hate crimes. And all crimes deserve equal justice. Choosing a special group of people, to receive more justice than the remainder of society, creates second class victims. That is what is un-American.