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Drinking at 18: Sensible or crazy?
Let’s discuss lowering drinking age, E-town College president says. Bad idea, others say.
Lancaster New Era
Published: Aug 21, 2008
12:10 EST
Lancaster
By CINDY STAUFFER, Staff

Millersville University freshmen talk about lowering the drinking age. They are (from left) Lisa Horna...(more)
 
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Students on drinking age
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Suggest lowering the drinking age to 18. Then be prepared for a firestorm of reaction.

Schools, law enforcement personnel and college students have widely differing views on a move this week by 100 college presidents, including Elizabethtown College's Ted Long, calling on lawmakers to discuss lowering the drinking age from 21 to 18.

The college presidents say that current drinking laws are not working, encourage dangerous binge drinking and force colleges to become enforcers rather than educators on the topic.

But others say changing the drinking age is a horrible idea.

"I find it appalling that they would even consider that," says Robert Frick, a local school superintendent whose high school seniors would be affected by such a change.

"It sounds like the primary reason is that it's tough to enforce and makes them police people, makes their job tougher," the Lampeter-Strasburg School District superintendent says. "The bottom line is what's best for 18-year-olds. Are they responsible enough to be given the freedom to drink whenever they want?

"I only deal with them until we graduate them. Until then? Definitely not."

Janet Bauer, a partner in the Bauer Beverage beer distributor business in Lancaster, could see an increase in business if the drinking age were lowered. But she agrees with Frick.

"I am totally opposed to it. Totally," Bauer says. "They can't handle the liquor at 18. They just can't handle it. I don't even think they should talk about it. I'm a hard-liner."

College kids — and this will come as no surprise to anyone who has ever been 18 — think lowering the drinking age makes sense.

But their reasons are fairly sobering.


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Ryan Forster, 19, of Lansdale, a Millersville University freshman, says, "It's not going to bring more people into drinking. They're drinking anyway. It will just reduce the legal consequences. Younger kids who are going to drink already do."

Says Katie Ashman, 18, an MU freshman from Philadelphia, "If you can go into the military and die for your country, you should be allowed to drink at a younger age."

Long has gotten a taste of this debate since the Amethyst Initiative, the group calling for a national debate on the drinking age, unveiled its ideas this week.

But the response has been muted, said campus spokesman Barry Freidly. Elizabethtown College has gotten only about 15 calls about the issue.

"Hopefully people were listening that the Amethyst Initiative is calling for a dialogue," he says, noting that 20 more college presidents signed onto the initiative this week.

Those who would be affected by a change in drinking laws — college students — say a loosening of the law could result in fewer problems.

For starters, a lower drinking age would take away the thrill of rebellion that some students feel with underage drinking.

"Everyone thinks it's the 'in' thing to do," says Wisdom Eguzouwa, 18, an MU freshman from Lancaster. "If you drink before 21, it's like, 'Look what I can do.' "

Ashman agrees, citing the first rule of adolescence: "You don't want to do it as much if you're allowed to do it."

Sometimes a person's responsibility is not tied to their age, says Sara Kennel, an MU freshman from Quarryville. She notes many 40-year-olds act irresponsibly by drinking and driving.

"I think people underestimate how responsible 18-year-olds can be," she says. "It's a person-to-person thing."

Ricky Armellino, a 22-year-old MU senior, says that society needs to de-emphasize the importance attached to drinking. His parents allowed him to have a glass of wine at the holidays and drinking has not been a major issue for him.

Many of the students agree too much is made of drinking here, saying it does not seem as big of an issue — or problem — in Europe and other countries where there are freer drinking laws.

But Penn Manor High School principal Jan Mindish said lowering the drinking age would just push the problem of underage drinking further onto high schools.

"If you made it legal for over half of everyone's senior class to drink, you don't have parties where there are just seniors," she says, adding, "I could see kids on a sporting team — some would be eligible to drink legally and some would not be eligible to drink."

The part of the brain that controls impulses is not fully developed in teens, she says. Even when alcohol is not involved, teens make bad decisions.

Allow drinking earlier, she says, and you have problems waiting to happen.

Millersville Police Chief John Rochat agrees, ticking off those problems: drunk driving, public drunkenness, disorderly conduct.

"Traffic fatalities are not a pretty sight," he says, adding, "Most of the times in drunk driving, the person who gets killed is not the person who doing the drinking and driving."

Magisterial District Judge William Reuter of Mount Joy says 60 percent of the cases he sees have alcohol as a factor. He does not understand the rush to introduce alcohol to younger people.

"Do individuals need it?" he asks. "Is there a pressing need for people to quickly get into utilizing this substance? Does it serve some social purpose? I'm not sure."

Education should and can be done and does help, Reuter says. He sends underage drinkers to a youth alcohol education program, which has greatly reduced the reoccurrence of underage arrests.

That program is offered by the Council on Drug and Alcohol Abuse. Executive director Dave Bender says he welcomes the debate that college presidents are calling for, but only if it includes the facts.

He would like to see the research, for example, that shows that lowering the drinking age would decrease binge drinking, vandalism, sexual assaults and drunk driving. He has not seen it.

Another fact he would like to see discussed is the issue of alcohol use in Europe, where there are more relaxed laws on drinking age.

Binge drinking is worse in France, Germany, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Italy and almost every other European nation with freer laws, Bender says.

Yes, young people are going to drink even though it is against the law, but no one is suggesting we loosen restrictions on murder, rape or even speeding because some people are going to do that anyway, he says.

"Our focus," he says. "should be on increased self-responsibility."


Staff writer Cindy Stauffer can be reached at cstauffer@LNPnews.com or 481-6024.


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QUOTE(mom33 @ Aug 21 2008, 03:52 PM)
CRAZY! I think this idea is isane. Teenagers can barely hold jobs let alone support a drinking habit. I would like to see an 18 year old be responsible- I see more teenagers getting money from their parents and mooching off rich friends or family... I guess this is what the new generation is about more freedom less rules. Why not make smoking marijuana legal too?


High School grad gifts to consider.....Brand new car of choice (they will accept nothing less) their own insurance policy, oh and a case, no keg of beer.

paproud
QUOTE(doug @ Aug 21 2008, 05:16 PM)
So 18 year olds are mature enough to carry weapons and kill others for the U.S. Military but not able to go to a bar and have an adult beverage...i guess if you don't want 18 year olds crying out for the drinking age to be lowered, then the age where people attain legal adult age should be raised..i also have problems with our society and court systems in general...i constantly see in the news that prosecutors are trying to charge 14 and 15 year old kids as adults, yet when drinking is discussed they have no bones about keeping the drinking age at 21 (as do our politicians). Where is the uniformity, how can you deem a 14 year as an adult, but not adult enough to drink, just adult enough to kill or commit some other violent crime. it seems the 21 year old drinking age is more out of convenience than anything else. That being said i think the drinking age should be moved to 19 or 20 NOT 18. We do not need our high school seniors going out to bars (they would never make it to class). 19 or 20 is college age when kids are on their own, and except for a very small percentage, people who are going to drink will start before they are 21, there are very few people who drink now, that waited until their 21st birthday. And stop with how kids today have no responsibility and how can't possibly hold down a job, speak for yourself. It is not our fualt our parents worked their butts off to provide for us. As a recent college grad (dec. 07') i appreciate all that my parents did for me, i am motivated to work so that i may one day be able to provide for my future children as well as my parents provided for me. So i dont want to hear that today's kids do not have any responsibility, because the generation before yours was saying the same thing about your generation.

How about a spell and grammar check first! Your parents can provide for you but it is their fault if they bent over backwards because it wasn't enough just giving you what you needed. I know HS grads that had their parents provide their booze for them for senior week. Why did they give in? They didn't want their kids "mad" at them. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Oh and by your age I can tell you I am your parents generation and my parents instilled rules and responsibility on us. When I hear kids today telling their parents to shut the "f" up I want to smack their tounge into next week. I would have never even thought to look at my parents wrong let alone disrespect them. I hear it all the time how lazy young people are today. They want to earn their big bucks but they dont want to work hard for it. They are used to living their big expensive life because mommy and daddy provided and didnt let them go without. So thank your folks for teaching you lifes hard lessons.
paproud
QUOTE(paproud @ Aug 22 2008, 12:14 PM)
To anyone over 21....we were underage once too. Do you really think anyone that young could determine how much booze they can "handle"?
Yes, if they had experience and were taught before they turned 21, 18, 16, 14, 12 (yes, some countries have a 12 year old limit on booze, but it's not enforced).
Experience is that one thing you need right before you get it.
QUOTE(paproud @ Aug 22 2008, 12:14 PM)
I did my heaviest drinking after I turned 21 and still couldn't handle it. Was sick every night I drank. I know kids who never drank and sure made up for it once they got to college. Kids just like to show off and college is a perfect place to do it....no parents. If they would lower it they are just going to want to go out all the more just as they do when they turn 21.

So let's for one moment say I agree with your argument, wouldn't it be better to have them getting insanely drunk where at least their parents will be able to deem if they've had so much they need hospitalization instead of their also drunk friends saying "have another!"?
QUOTE(paproud @ Aug 22 2008, 12:27 PM)
High School grad gifts to consider.....Brand new car of choice (they will accept nothing less) their own insurance policy, oh and a case, no keg of beer.
Sounds good, but I think a fine champaigne is a much better gift for the occasion.
All kids get their own insurance policy when they graduate unless they go to college. Once you graduate, your parent's insurance company often wants the kids to get their own insurance policy, they make more money that way. Health ins. cos will drop you upon graduation.
New car? Hmm, depends on the individual and family, I would not begrudge a brand new car as a grad gift.
Me? I paid for my own car, two years after I graduated, it was new 11 years before I bought it.
solitary
What seems crazy to me is that we teach kids how to drive before they drive, if they join the military we give them great training on how to do their job (possibly the greatest training in the world), before they vote they take a civics course in high school. But before they are old enough to drink....we turn a blind eye and send them off to college for three years where nobody is looking. then we wonder why this is a probem. it is us who are crazy, not the idea of possibly lowering the drinking age (or any other outside the box idea on this subject for that matter).

maybe the drinking age should be lowered, but with a caveat or something. maybe only you can drink in the company of your parents. maybe you must pay (not given by school or other governmental bureaucrazy) to an organization like AAA or MADD (who would never allow this, those neo-prohibition zealots) to take a rigorous course with an adult on drinking, and then you can apply for a license that looks like everyone elses. i'm sure we can do something better then some sort of arbitrary age limit.

if safety is truly our motivator, shouldn't we raise the limit? i know for one i'm much much much more mature today then i was ten years ago.

finally, if lowering the limit to 18 is taking a step back, isn't keeping it at 21 a double step back, as banning alcohol has had a glorious success rate in our country.
P. Floyd
lowering the drinking age has been tried before and those with the power to raise it again, had it raised. but education about drinking is the key to the whole issue, isn't it? having more knowledge and information regarding the immediate effects and the long term effects and the possible effects. when it's not such a big deal, it loses its appeal somewhat. Pennsylvania almost encourages drinking in excess since the easiest way to buy beer is by the case. six packs are available, but costly. in states where beer is sold everywhere, it's not such a taboo, if it's hot and you're thirsty for a quick beer- in PA, you almost gotta buy 24, can't buy just one. there are numerous DUIs for people way over 21. if 18 year olds could drink at someone's house rather than driving around looking for a remote spot to drink, it would be safer for everyone.
machiavelli
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