There was a survery a while ago. I forget the questions and how they were worded, but some of them pertained to growth and I think one of them was about spending twp money to preserve farmland. And as far as the library goes, it's not that the twp can't afford it, it's that half the people in the twp voted against it. IIRC, the options given all included a library, except for the do nothing option. I think the vote was pretty well split between "do nothing" and the other options, so of course that means half the residents voted for a library when they may have been voting for an indoor pool but since the library was tacked onto that option, well it was a vote for the library. It was a poor survey, imo. (This was a separate survery before the "how's the twp running" survey.)

Yes. If 50' is good, then 100' is better, and 150' will save a whole lot of farmland. Thank you Commissioners Keebler and Casselbury for standing up against the three MT Commissioners who are OBVIOUSLY more concerned with helping their developer buddies (many of who already have packed the township's backrooms) maximize their profits per acre.

Why is it that any MT development approval vote is ALWAYS split 3 / 2 in favor of the developers? (just follow the money)

At least Commissioner President Larry Downing did not need to cast his MT history making tie-beaking vote telephonically from his hospital bed on this latest pro-developer vote. Breaking the tie on Dale High's pro-shopping center warranted extra "special" arrangements to screw his residents and help his buddy.

Maybe you should forge another false statement from the MT Commissioners saying they were wrong and sorry and post it on TB so they can lock this thread too.

You mean this locked thread?

I never claimed the commissioner's alleged statement was factual - quite the contrary. There was a clear and obvious disclaimer that was soon announced (by me) as bogus immediately after the township offices opened for business. The entire post quickly and magically disappeared after what we can only presume was extreme pressure by the MT police department to pull it, and the thread was summarily locked.

The level of "sensitivity" (and your personal animosity) about the police response that tragic night only reinforces citizens' suspicions that the police department has something to hide.

Kreider is already convicted for 3 life sentences. The only reason for the MTPD to continue to hide their timeline (including the time-stamped communication and GPS records) is that there is information being withheld that likely proves Lisa Haines got a raw deal.

I suggest that rather than continuing your attacks upon the messenger, your time would be better spent shredding documents and destroying hard drives (if you haven't already).

You posted the statement and SIGNED IT "Manheim Township Commissioners", what kind of sicko does that?
Obviously the PD has nothing to hide because they invited you to talk to them but you are too much of a COWARD to take them up on it. Don't give me any excuses either because Eric C talked to them and he was satisfied. You just continue to try to wreck the reputation of what I consider to be a pro police dept (Of which I am not a part of but I don't mind if you think I am). I am perfectly happy living in this community and I feel if I need to call they will be there. I support everyone that wears a uniform and I detest those like you that try to tarnish a good rep by spreading filth when you yourself will not talk to the PD. It proves you have a grudge to seek and that they KNOW YOU for some reason. If you think they are hiding their timeline then call them like they asked you to do and ask them about it.....but no....you won't do that.
I knew Lisa Haines, both my children were taught at the Lancaster Brethren pre-school by her and I would be the first to stand up and argue if she got raw deal from the cops. The one she got a raw deal from is Kreider. The one who stabbed her and returned to finish her off as the papers put it. The problem as so many have pointed out to you was the comunication to the police as to what happened that night but you would rather try to get revenge against those that have arrested you. Like I said, put up or shut up, call the PD and get what you are looking for. I will keep my hard drive because it just proves that you are a person who holds a huge grudge.