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Student's gun shirt: too violent
Despite parents' free-speech argument, U.S. judge cites rise in school violence and rules Penn Manor has right to ban student's T-shirt.
Lancaster New Era
Oct 03, 2008 11:32 EST
Lancaster
By CINDY STAUFFER, Staff Writer

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QUOTE (elco mom @ Oct 3 2008, 11:57 AM)
I don't see anything remotely patriotic about that shirt. This young man's 'rights' (privilege) to free speech end when it goes against established guidelines. If he likes the shirt so much, wear it at home and come to school in something more appropriate.

Guess you haven't considered the "established guidelines" to be constitutional or not!
grieker
QUOTE (A1 @ Oct 3 2008, 01:27 PM)
We beat this topic to death before. Good for the judge. Idiot parents.


You are absolutely right A-1, we did beat this topic to death once before and I still disagree with most of you posters out there.
I am however, in agreement with Whirlwind on this subject.
Listen; if this shirt would have said " National Anti-Terrorist Month, Terrorist Hunting Permit, Shoot A Terrorist, No Bag Limit", I would have found it somewhat offensive.
I believe the last time research was done on this thread, the rule read "no clothing bearing any images of guns or weaponry of a violent nature". So, is the T-shirt okay if the guns are not on it ? I see so many of you talking in circles on these threads.
The shirt is not telling anyone to go out and "ace" someone with a pistol or any other type of weapon.

The issue here is more about our constitutional rights and this young man's parents poor attitude about how they should approach retalliation for the loss of those rights. The child's rights were violated. He, however should have complied with the rules and removed or turned the shirt inside out until such time that the shirt was declared non- offensive and then could wear it with even more pride than before.

Wearing images of weapons on our clothing or tattooed on our skin is not a State, local or Federal offense. If it were, there would be inmates hanging out of prison windows from over-stuffed cells. Images of a suggestive violent nature should be but still, are not, thanks to our constitution. Walking through the city donning a firearm with that T-Shirt on might be considered a threat to those named on the garment and cause for concern, but if he has a permit to carry, he still is not breaking any laws.

My point is simple. In the United States of America, the laws and courts are set up so you can;
(a.) make your point, (b.) prove your point, and (c.) get the court to go along with your peril, and then you wear the image(s) with pride and flip off anybody who disagrees with you.
It's the approach that counts. Follow the rules and procedures written in the constitution and you'd be surprised at how many times you can "fluff" your superiors.

I hope my stance is clear on this issue. (By now)
frankomav47
QUOTE (old409 @ Oct 3 2008, 01:12 PM)
This isn't the type of shirt I would like to see worn in school, I find it offensive. But, I have searched the U.S. Constitution and the various State Constitutions and nowhere can I find the Right not to be offended.

So what is it that offends you about the shirt? The shadow of a pistol, or the words?
grieker
QUOTE (A1 @ Oct 3 2008, 04:41 PM)
There's a lot of that going around. Take a look in the mirror. What part of "dress code" don't you understand? Almost everyone I know has a dress code where they work. This little low-life is in for a rude awakening when he gets out from under his ignorant parents and into the real world.
Neither would I, and I'm Irish.


Eeeaauu, absolutely, it's mental irregular !!
frankomav47
We had a different type of offensive t-shirt banned when I was in school. Seems there was a small market in Marietta by the name of Youndts. Not sure if it's still open. They made t-shirts up that said Youndt's Meat Market on the front, the back showed two pigs in the dogie position going at it and underneath was the slogan "Making Bacon". The young ladies from Marietta were told this was inappropriate attire and to go home and change their shirt. Wasn't violent just inappropriate for school.
Makita
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