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QUOTE (BeingReal @ Jun 1 2009, 10:47 PM)
Cripes -- I don't even have one!

Nor do I. His Blackberry may be owned by someone else and on loan to him. I've had an Old Order Mennonite guy rave about his with the Bluetooth capability.
Nativeson
QUOTE (citydweller @ Jun 1 2009, 08:56 PM)
edited, due to length......
But, if "English" farmers could make their kids run heavy equipment and take them out of school after 8th grade and work them full-time, don't you think some of them would?

Well, there's your Amish world. Less regulated, largely untaxed, more prone (in the press anyway) to "home incidents" than what we expect to see in our "English" world. Also more attuned to community pressure, to the point of potentially being driven out and expelled. Can't legally do that in our world, and I got 50 phone book covers full 'o lawyers that say so.


Citydweller, good post except you do have some misconceptions.

It is legal for ALL people, not just the Amish, to remove their kids from school at a certain age (I am not sure if it is age 15 or 16).

The only tax some Amish do not pay are Social Security taxes, but than those who do not pay, do not collect either. Other than that the Amish pay ALL the same taxes, that the English do. They help pay, but don't accept, welfare, food stamps, fuel assistance, reduced housing, free school lunches, grants, clothing allowances, earned income credit, etc. They pay dearly for the Engish's kid’s education, but the English don’t pay for their kid’s education.

The argument is that they don't pay the taxes at the fuel pump. However many of them hire drivers to take them places. And trust me, the Amish do alot of traveling to the Amish settlements in other states. They pay those drivers dearly. So indirectly they do pay the taxes at the pump.
Goldilocks
QUOTE (southernendmom @ Jun 1 2009, 01:44 PM)
Spaylady - I've had that happen to me enough that if I'm getting ready to pass a buggy I look ahead to make sure there isn't a left turn they can even make before I pass.
I believe in religious freedom and all but I personally think buggies should be outlawed. They are a safety hazard to everyone! My brother flipped his car a few years ago when he was going down a windy hill and came around the corner and swerved to avoid a slow moving buggy that was there but couldn't be seen. My other brother almost did the same thing at the same spot a few weeks ago. A young man at my church was killed earlier this year when the driver of the car he was riding in came around a blind curve at night and he swerved to miss a buggy there and hit a telephone pole. Not to mention the horses that get antsy waiting to pull out onto a road and go right in front of traffic even though their reigns are still being held back. I've lost count of the amount of times I've crested a hill and had to slam on the brakes b/c there's a slow moving buggy right there. Plenty of Amish are seriously injured and killed in these accidents. Then you have impatient drivers who almost hit you head on b/c they tried to pass a buggy where they couldn't see that you were coming. Need I go on? How come there aren't more people complaining about this issue?

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY AMISH PEOPLE DON'T SEE THE DANGER THEY CAUSE NOT ONE BIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T FORGET THE HORSE !profanity!
jmh110
QUOTE (Nativeson @ Jun 2 2009, 12:15 AM)
Nor do I. His Blackberry may be owned by someone else and on loan to him.


Seeing an Amishman with a Blackberry would make my day. Maybe he was checking the stock market.
Chance
City, you made some good points but the Amish in general are put on this pedestal of 'gentleness' and often when ppl made somewhat of a negative comment about 'them' ppl come out of the woodwork to 'protect' .

They also never speak out about ea other and are complacent when they see others of their ilk (yea, I said it~~~ ILK) doing anything wrong.

If I see my neighbor being abusing their children or animals I will speak out. I don't care who they are. Or even if they are related to me.
spaylady
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