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Center's 1st convention a success
Attendees enjoy exploring downtown, mayor says.
Lancaster New Era
Jun 26, 2009 10:09 EST
Lancaster
By BERNARD HARRIS, Staff Writer
As mayors, council members and officials from across the state wrap up their annual convention today, host Rick Gray said there has been just one problem: keeping people in the sessions.

From the new Lancaster County Convention Center and integrated Marriott Lancaster at Penn Square hotel, they have been out exploring the shops and restaurants of Lancaster City, said Gray, the city's mayor.

The comment Gray said he has heard most from the 350 officials attending the Pennsylvania League of Cities and Municipalities convention is: "I've been to Lancaster numerous times and never knew how beautiful the city is."

Gray said he heard that from the mayor of Scranton, who toured Lancaster while running, and numerous others.

The convention is the first in the new $177.6 million center and hotel, which opened a week ago.

"It's been a complete success," the mayor said of the annual gathering that was slated to conclude this afternoon.

Former state Sen. Gibson Armstrong said he and his wife spoke with a couple from Wilkes-Barre who were in Penn Square and looking for somewhere to eat.

When Armstrong listed four downtown restaurants, they said they had already been to them and were looking for others to explore.

"It was really positive. It was glowing," Armstrong said of the unsolicited praise he heard from the conventioneers. "They just loved the downtown."

And, Armstrong said, he spoke with one restaurateur who told him he has had his best three nights ever.

"This is a small convention," said Armstrong, who had pushed for a downtown center since 1985. "When we get a big one in — of a 1,000 people or more — that will be really big."

Deborah Bitting, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania League of Cities and Municipalities, agreed that she had heard nothing but positive comments from conventioneers.

"Everything has been a very positive experience for us," she said.

The group, which meets at different locations in the state annually, will be in Bethlehem next year, she said. But, she is sure they will be coming back to Lancaster in the future.

Meanwhile, one of the people most responsible for the center becoming a reality has announced that he is stepping away from the project.

Art Morris, chairman of the Lancaster County Convention Center Authority board, said Thursday night that he will be leaving his position in a month.

Morris, the former city mayor, shepherded the project through its construction over more than two years.

"We're open and I'm ready to move on, and I feel very fortunate to have worked with this board," Morris told fellow board members at their regular monthly meeting Thursday.

Morris said he has been planning to step down after the opening since before he even joined the board.

"I knew that it would be very, very time consuming and it has been," he said.

Morris saw double-duty as board chairman and as the Convention Center Authority's executive director for 10 months.

"I don't think he really realized how much time and what a commitment he was making. He gave a huge amount of time and all unreimbursed," said Gray, who appointed Morris to the center board in April 2007.

Gray credited Morris with uniting what had been a very contentious board and bringing them together to work toward the opening of the center. He also brought transparency and a willingness to listen to the organization that quelled much of the criticism, the mayor noted.

"He showed what you can do with leadership on a board," said Gray. "The public owes him a great debt of gratitude."

A nominating committee was named Thursday to begin the search for a new board chairman. Gray said he has also begun mulling another city appointee to the joint city-county board.

Morris said he will step down July 31.

Also, it was announced there will be a second public open house at the center on Sunday, July 19, at which the facility will be dedicated.


Staff writer Bernard Harris can be reached at bharris@LNPnews.com or 481-6022.

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QUOTE (Reader70 @ Jun 26 2009, 11:54 PM)
I've said it forever, use the convention center to get what you want in the neighborhoods.


Apparently that would be bars, according to convention-goers.

The city (not the CC) did a good job promoting local business - polled local establishments months ago, produced a full-color brochure showing which businesses would be open during free time, complete with a map.

And they came...and walked right on past, to the bars.

Wednesday night we were supposed to be open until at least 8pm to accomodate the throngs of delegates running around the city with their brochures. So, most of us stayed open.

To crickets.

Well, we up here on the 300 block figured we were just too far away, from what we got, which was two mayors, one of which actually visited multiple shops.

Next day I talked to the owner of the Belvedere, and it seems we were wrong. The delegates just walked past us, to the bar.

"We were PACKED", he said, and recounted how the 20+ member organizing committee for the convention had dinner there the week before. Then he told us how just about everyone in his establishment Wednesday night had a convention badge.

And we, on the way to the Belvedere, saw two people bother into our shops. And actually, we (ourselves) saw only one, but he's my New Best Friend.

SO, to recap - The city goes all out to send convention delegates to local shops. Delegates walk past local shops to get to fluffy bar. Fluffy bar has a balls-to-the-wall night.

Lesson? To make money off of conventions we need to lose retailers and build more bars.

Nice.
citydweller
QUOTE (citizen-too @ Jun 27 2009, 12:46 AM)
It can't be called a success yet. The opening was a success, finally but, the convention can't be called a success until they start showing a profit.

The convention center was never expected to show a profit. The budgeted annual operating loss of the convention center is in the neighborhood of $1 million dollars, forever. I expect the actual cost to taxpayers will be noticeably higher than that.

There is another factor, one which even Reader70 cannot deny (although he might ignore it, or try to change the subject once again): the "private" hotel is an incredibly terrible deal for taxpayers.

How many "private" hotels are built and owned by a local government agency?

How many "private" $76 million hotels receive over $40 million in taxpayer dollars toward construction?

How many "private" hotels receive $1 million State taxpayer dollars every year for 20 years to pay off a $15 million construction loan (part of the over $40 million construction subsidy)?

How many "private" hotels have over half of cost of building and maintaining their lobby paid for by taxpayers?

How many "private" hotels have 100% of the cost of building and maintaining all of their meeting rooms paid for by taxpayers, paying only $100 a year to lease the space?

How many "private" hotels have 100% of the cost of building their kitchen paid for by taxpayers?

How many "private" hotels have 100% of the cost of building their administrative spaces paid for by taxpayers?

And the biggest one of all:

How many "private" $76 million hotels pay no real estate taxes whatsoever for at least 20 years?

All of this, so the owners of the "private" hotel BUSINESS can earn $2 million (or more) PROFIT every year.

# # #

Even if the hotel and convention center were to be a "success", the project is already a total and complete failure in cost and accountability to taxpayers.
Artie See
Lots of convention centers and onsite hotels are funded with "tax payer money". The part paid by the "bed tax" is not paid by the taxpayers.

Lots of sports stadiums and fields are financed by public monies. These projects are designed to hopefully spur development and increase interest and tourism.

It's nothing "new" to finance these types of facilities with tax dollars, and Lancaster is not any different in building and financing a convention center and hotel in this manner

While one may not agree with it, it is not unique to Lancaster. Remember, the idea was to attract more tourism to Downtown Lancaster and to change your economy to add tourism dollars more in the "mix".
Reader70
DEFINE SUCCESS. All went well with the first meeting in the clubhouse, oh joy.
Did the CC or Marriot make money? No means it was not a success in the only sense I care about. If they did not break even, this was another gift from the taxpayers to ____. Ironic is one word for it...
salty
QUOTE (Reader70 @ Jun 26 2009, 11:54 PM)
Mr.See, you're sounding like a broken record. Time to move on already. Are you going to rehash this forever? I think now that the CC is open, you're losing your audience of naysayers.


I asked him a question and that was his answer-yell at me if you don't want to hear it. I asked HIM! (be nice, lol)

QUOTE (Artie See @ Jun 27 2009, 08:05 AM)

Even if the hotel and convention center were to be a "success", the project is already a total and complete failure in cost and accountability to taxpayers.


Artie, I know that I haven't been following this CC nearly as closely as you have but even just with the numbers that you provide-the math doesn't add up. It doesn't make good business sense at all. I can understand why you are so passionate about it. It's going to ram us all up the #@) in the near future!
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