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Drumore OKs shopping center
But supervisors attach 15 conditions to 21,000-square-foot project at the Buck
Intelligencer Journal
Lancaster New Era
Oct 07, 2009 06:41 EST
Buck
By JAMES BUESCHER, Correspondent

Drumore Township supervisors have given conditional approval for a 21,000-square-foot shopping center on the west side of Route 272 at Buck.

On Thursday, the supervisors approved a conditional-use application for the project, which is slated to include a convenience store and a fast-food restaurant.

The township's approval came with 15 conditions that must be met before the project can move forward.

Speaking on Oct. 2, Drumore Township zoning officer Mark Deimler said that the project's developer, Richard Wenger of East Drumore Township, has 30 days to appeal the conditions.

"Supervisors have heard expert testimony about issues such as how the new shopping center might impact sewage, local traffic, and the area water supply," Deimler said. "If the developer agrees to the conditions, then the next step is to begin working on a land-development plan for the new shopping center."

Although the new center is slated to contain retail shopping space plus room for a fast-food restaurant and a convenience store, Deimler said that "it's not yet indicated" what specific businesses will be included.

"Big companies usually don't like to commit at this stage of the game," Deimler said. "They prefer to wait until the developer has obtained all the necessary approvals. After the land-development plan gets approved, we'll probably find out what will be going in, whether it's a Sheetz, a Wawa or another Turkey Hill."

To be built at the Buck along the west side of Route 272 on the site of a former Pontiac dealership, the new shopping center, according to published reports, might also contain a furniture store or a greeting card store, and possibly a bank with a drive-up teller window.

Wenger submitted an application for the new shopping center in March, and elected officials held hearings on the matter on May 28, July 21 and Aug. 19.

Speaking at Thursday's meeting, Brian Wilson, a lawyer for the township, outlined the 15 conditions with with the developer is being asked to comply in order to move forward on the project.

The conditions include providing six horse-and-carriage parking spaces for members of local Plain sect communities and providing signs for trucks to make deliveries from a second entrance along Route 372/Holtwood Road.

Also, supervisors said, the shopping center will be prohibited from allowing cars to make left turns to head north on Route 272. Instead, drivers must be directed out to Route 372/Holtwood Road.

"But of course PennDOT (state Department of Transportation) has the ultimate authority," said Wilson, who is with the Lancaster law firm of Blakinger, Byler & Thomas.

The developer, he said, also will be required to submit a lighting plan, plus take steps to implement post-construction stormwater-management practices to protect nearby Fishing Creek.

If Wenger wishes to appeal the conditions, Deimler said, he must do so in the Lancaster County Court of Common Pleas before the start of November.

"But if he chooses not to appeal, then the next step is for Mr. Wenger to get started on the site drawings," Deimler said. "Then those must be submitted to the township for approval."

For more information on the project, contact the Drumore Township office at 548-2660.


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QUOTE (FDR06-10 @ Oct 7 2009, 05:15 PM)
Always like when you hear them say "we don't work on sundays, our religion forbids it", then you see the same hypocrit eating at a restaurant being served by others working on a sunday. Laughable really!

Haven't been to Goods in years and wont ever go back. They don't deserve our hard earned money!


Well, it's different if someone else wants to work on a Sunday! They're just not allowed. They won't miss your business either. The Good's Store in Blue Ball does a booming business. The tourists all love to stop at the Mennonite mini-mall. Have to give Shady Marvin of Shady Maple and Goody credit for standing by their beliefs and not being open on Sundays cause they are missing out on thousands of dollars each weekend. Good's is also closed on religious holidays like Good Friday and Ascension Day. And just as an FYI the reason they came here was to escape religious persecution in Europe. Funny that they are now being boycotted for religious reasons in the commonwealth that specifically invited them to come and practice their religion.
thoughts from the east
QUOTE (justmoveaway @ Oct 7 2009, 11:03 AM)
What is the latest on the other shopping center anyone know? I am not for using up land for that purpose ,but the amishman got his money for the farm which is falling down and serves no purpose anymore so it may as well be a shopping center for us in the southern end.We have nothing down here ,no stores,hospitals etc. you cannot even buy a dress without driving to Lancaster or more south,southeast.it is disgusting.and I agree about boucotting Good's for not selling the flag.We can send youn men and women to countries to die for our freedom and so they can open a store and make lots of money .but they cannot sell they AMERICAN flag which stands for all of the states and freedom.


justmoveaway,
Just move away! I`m sure you could find all the dresses and stuff you need in town or in Manhiem Twp. We don`t need any more than what we have down here.Beer dist,grocery stores,Buck Hardware,Good`s I know,Good`s won`t sell flags but I know they sell dictionary's,you could use one of those.
Hammer
bring Target to the Buck
hispanic in lancaster
QUOTE (justmoveaway @ Oct 7 2009, 12:03 PM)
...so it may as well be a shopping center for us in the southern end.We have nothing down here ,no stores,hospitals etc. you cannot even buy a dress without driving to Lancaster or more south,southeast.it is disgusting.


like others have said...if you don't like it here, just move away!

i'll GLADLY drive to lancaster city or even farther away when i occasionally need something that can't be bought in the southern end, if it means i don't have to deal every day with:

trafficcrowdsnoisecrimelight pollutioneyesore shopping centers and cookie-cutter housing developments
now, THOSE things are 'disgusting.'

most people that live here feel the same way. they CHOSE to live here, knowing full well they'd have to drive to lancaster to shop for some things. they also CHOSE to live here for the peace and quiet, the wide open spaces, and the lack of noise, crime and traffic.

justmoveaway, if YOU chose to live here hoping someday you'd have a walmart in your backyard...well then you're just plain stupid. move up to fruitville or lititz pike where you'll have any one of a dozen fast food restaurants within a 5 minute drive. you can buy all the dresses you want at the mall.

there's only so much "country" left, and once it's developed into suburbia, it's NEVER going back to "country".

developers, GO HOME and leave us peace and quiet-loving country folk alone. build your multi-million dollar projects in your own back yard and YOU deal with the unavoidable negative consequences every day for the rest of your lives. see how you like it.

you greedy dirtbags get rich by ruining communities like ours (you self-righteously call it "progress"), then skipping town and leaving us to deal with the aftermath. may you spend the rest of your days sitting in traffic!
orion3591
QUOTE (thoughts from the east @ Oct 7 2009, 04:27 PM)
Well, it's different if someone else wants to work on a Sunday! They're just not allowed. They won't miss your business either. The Good's Store in Blue Ball does a booming business. The tourists all love to stop at the Mennonite mini-mall. Have to give Shady Marvin of Shady Maple and Goody credit for standing by their beliefs and not being open on Sundays cause they are missing out on thousands of dollars each weekend. Good's is also closed on religious holidays like Good Friday and Ascension Day. And just as an FYI the reason they came here was to escape religious persecution in Europe. Funny that they are now being boycotted for religious reasons in the commonwealth that specifically invited them to come and practice their religion.

I didn't invite their cheapazzzzzzzzzzes to the commonwealth! I'm not boycotting anyone for their religious beliefs. I'm boycotting them for putting their religion before the country in which they live and affords them to practice their twisted religion! You know, that religion which forbids alcohol to be consumed and when you go to hunting camp with them and they all pull out a bottle of booze from their footlockers. Yeah, their devout in their faith! LMAO
FDR06-10
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