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Attempt to shoo crows from Lancaster begins
Intelligencer Journal
Lancaster New Era
Nov 04, 2009 07:54 EST
Lancaster
By AD CRABLE, Staff Writer

The screams and pops city residents may hear at dusk later this week are not from muggings or drive-by shootings.

Rather, the crows are back in town and it will be volunteers from the Lancaster Crow Coalition shooing them away with bangers and screamers.

As in last fall's successful campaign, coalition members will be unleashing their pyrotechnics and unrolling the unwelcome mat from atop the city's Prince Street Garage and Lancaster Newspapers' Central Parking Garage.

"We'll be starting to make some noise in the city," said Laurie Ulrich Fuller, who founded the coalition in 2006 as a nonlethal way to keep crows from becoming a nuisance in the city and suburbs.

The idea — and it's worked beautifully the last couple years — is to drive away crows as they migrate into the city and suburbs from Canada and New England for winter roosts.

Migrating crows are just beginning to show up and scout for roosts, Fuller said. Most years, 20,000 to 30,000 crows arrive here, though last year's visitors numbered only about 12,000.

High numbers are here by Thanksgiving. The migration population peaks around New Year's, then starts to dissipate and usually is gone by March.

Last year, the noise-making from atop parking garages broke large flocks of crows into smaller groups that dispersed north of the city and did not cause major complaints from the suburbs, Fuller said.

A few groups set up temporarily in parts of Manheim Township, but officials there harassed them for a couple weeks and they departed, she said.

"I think we've got a system in place that works, and I think it's kind of become a non-issue," Fuller said. "It's been economical, effective and humane. It's a win, win, win."

Coalition volunteers act as eyes for the campaign, looking for flocks. The public is urged to report large flocks of crows settling in a particular spot by calling the Crow Coalition hotline at 413-2545.

"When you see tiny groups of crows in your trees, those are the non-migratory crows and have been here all along," said Fuller, who lives on North Shippen Street. "If you have hundreds of crows, give us a call."

For more information about the campaign, and research on crows in Lancaster County and elsewhere, go online to www.lancastercrows.org.

Last year, in addition to noisemakers, the coalition hung fake dead crows, called effigies, in some neighborhoods to scare away flocks. The cemetery at St. James Episcopal Church at East Orange and North Duke streets was one location.

"We don't want anyone to put up effigies on their own," Fuller said. "If there are too many effigies, the crows will eventually figure it out."

The current noisemaking about to start in the city should be brief, Fuller said. "We will do noisemaking until we don't see them coming into the city at dusk anymore. Last year, it only took a couple weeks. We're looking for it to be quickly effective."

City police and the James Street Improvement District have been notified of the twilight disturbance.

The coalition was formed after a campaign in 2005 in which a federal agency used dog kibble laced with poison to kill crows.

The city, East Hempfield Township, East Petersburg Borough and Manheim Township officials signed on and provided funding for equipment for the new grassroots coalition. The League of Humane Voters also is involved in the coalition.

The coalition still uses equipment purchased then and the campaign does not cost any of the municipalities money, Fuller said.

acrable@lnpnews.com


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Amen. Yes, they're bigger than goldfinches or cardinals, and the visiting crows get together in larger groups, but MOST of the places they hang out are not a problem for people. But the press coverage and the hysterical reaction of township officials a few years back (before this coalition was formed) make people assume there's some big problem. It's ridiculous to get so upset. Wash your car. Hose off the sidewalk. Get a life.

QUOTE (spaylady @ Nov 4 2009, 10:55 AM)
How do we drive the screamers and poppers away?

OK..I'll give em credit solving what they perceive is such a 'problem' humanely.

But geez, why do ppl get so bent out of shape about them?

Native/non native, whether they 'belong' here...or NOT..

Where CAN they live ? I have to wonder if these birds had magnificent colors if such efforts to drive them away would be in place.
kenjakitty
Huh? I have volunteered with this group, and last year they shot off pyrotechnics for about 3 or 4 nights in the city, for about 10 minutes each night - and that's like 4 or 5 pyros per night, when neighborhoods ASKED them to. They didn't even need me, it turned out. This year, there have been 3 (yes, THREE) pyros fired in the City so far. I heard them because I live in an apartment near the garage where it was done, and I was watching them on the roof. It all took place the space of 5 minutes, on one evening. What ARE you talking about????

QUOTE (pinecode @ Nov 4 2009, 11:16 AM)
I much prefer the crows to the constant noise by the coalition.
kenjakitty
I'm hoping you mean the people who get all worked up about the crows, and not the volunteers who help to move them out of places where people complain about poop on their cars. YES, poop on their cars, like it's the acid vandal ruining their paint job. It washes off. It's not the end of the world, but you'd think it was the way people freak out. The volunteers, believe me, would not be bothering the crows if it weren't for people getting all upset about the poop. Sometimes they peck on rubber rooftops, but there are easy ways to get them to stop that. Other than that, they don't damage anything and they were here before we were. In a perfect world, the crows would decide humans are too annoying to THEM and stay out in wooded and open areas, but they like to be warm and see what's going on at night. Just like we do - imagine that!!
QUOTE (city liver @ Nov 5 2009, 12:01 AM)
what weak, miserable, uneventful lives you have when you are annoyed by migratory birds. I can pick you people out as I pass you on the street. Face's of pure misery!
kenjakitty
Grieker, you are REALLY WILDLY MISINFORMED. These aren't deer, reproducing in a now-tiny woods and starving to death. They're migratory birds who come here from Canada and upstate NY, where they have big, open ranges to live in, and where they live in small groups (like OUR resident crows do). They aren't starving, and there aren't too many of them. There are "too many" to roost in a tree over someone's driveway or parking lot without making a "mess" (which is why the noisemakers are used -- and successfully, unlike the poison, as a reminder to whoever said "Cheese curls"), but there's plenty of food for them around here (in farm fields, where they eat the larvae of bugs the farmers would have to kill the next spring), and there are NOT too many of them. We've had 30,000 or so coming here EVERY YEAR since at least the 1800s (and probably long before that), based on old newspaper reports found last year. So nobody's compassion is improperly placed, and nobody's care for these birds is harming them.

Your ignorance, however, is giving a lot of us a headache.
QUOTE (grieker @ Nov 5 2009, 09:41 AM)
No issue with you, smug, don't think so. Do you know why there are so many? That's right, nobody is killing them anymore. It's one thing to be compassionate and caring about animals; however it is cruel to allow them to proliferate into masses so large that they die off from lack of food, disease etc.

You are correct, there are bigger things to stew over - I didn't write the article.
kenjakitty
QUOTE (spaylady @ Nov 5 2009, 03:52 PM)
it could also be because as a kid my friend's parents had a 'pet crow' they found who was injured. They took care of him, had him in a large cage and he talked. Repeated I LIKE SCHOOL over n over and whistled (cat call whistle) at people whenever they entered the room. He was awesome! Later they let a museum have him (they had an animl rehab behind it) and the public was allowed to walk thru. He had a huge enclosure and I didn't know they surrendered him. I walked thru , suddenly heard this catcall whistle with I LIKE SCHOOL and couldn't believe it . It was HIM.

Maybe because I had this personal experience w/this crow & see how they are no different than a parrot in being able to mimic words, see how smart , endearing they can be Im more sympathetic to them. IDK...

Have a great day. Glad its only a disagreement...and nothing personal but I hope maybe I can warm you up one notch about em w/my story. Maybe not...but oh well.


Excellent story, when I was growing up there where squirrels that come around and some of the young would not go away and we would feed them and they would come in the house. Pretty neat.

As for the crow
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and he talked
maybe it was a mocking bird
grieker
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