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Pitts in forefront of abortion amendment
Co-sponsor of successful bipartisan move not to allow coverage for most procedures under national health care.
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Nov 08, 2009 00:22 EST
By PAULA WOLF, Staff Writer

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The bipartisan abortion amendment passed during Saturday's health care debate was co-sponsored by Rep. Joseph Pitts.

A Republican who represents Lancaster County and parts of Chester and Berks counties, Pitts teamed with Democratic Rep. Bart Stupak, of Michigan, to draft the amendment months ago, in the Committee on Energy and Commerce.

The proposal was approved 240-194. Sixty-four Democrats joined 176 Republicans in voting for the Stupak-Pitts amendment, which would bar the new government insurance plan from covering abortions, except in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the mother is in danger. The Democrats' original health care bill would have allowed the government plan to cover abortions.

Despite the amendment's passage, Pitts voted no on the health care overhaul that later passed. He instead supported the Republicans' alternative, which went down to defeat.

According to The Associated Press, the Stupak-Pitts amendment also would prohibit people who receive new federal health subsidies from using them to buy insurance plans that include abortion coverage. The original bill would have allowed people receiving such subsidies to pay for abortion coverage with their own money, a provision that abortion opponents labeled an accounting gimmick.

Under the Stupak-Pitts amendment, people who do not receive federal insurance subsidies could buy private insurance plans that include abortion coverage. People who receive federal subsidies could buy separate policies covering abortions if they use their own money to do it.

Also under the amendment, companies selling health insurance policies that cover abortions would be required to offer identical policies without that coverage.

A health care overhaul bill in the Senate bans federal abortion funding, but the language is less strict.

In a brief phone interview Saturday afternoon before the vote, Pitts said the goal of the amendment was to maintain current law, which bans federal funding of abortion except in cases of rape, incest or when the mother's life is at risk.

Pitts also stressed the amendment's bipartisan roots.

He and Stupak are members of the Pro-Life Caucus in the House, and Stupak is a co-chairman of the caucus.

Both serve on the Energy and Commerce Committee. The amendment voted on Saturday was one of four abortion-related amendments that he and Stupak drafted when health care reform was in that committee, Pitts said.

The proposal later acquired four other co-sponsors: Brad Ellsworth, D-Ind.; Kathy Dahlkemper, D-Pa.; Christopher Smith, R-N.J.; and Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio.

Getting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to allow a vote on the amendment "definitely was a big victory," said Pitts' press secretary, Andrew Wimer.

Previously, Pelosi had indicated she was only going to permit the Republican health care bill to come to a vote and not the abortion amendment, he said.

The agreement to bring the Stupak-Pitts amendment to the floor was reached midnight Friday after hours of negotiations brokered by Pelosi. Stupak, Ellsworth and other abortion opponents won the last-minute concession despite strong opposition from abortion rights supporters who were the major force behind the overall health care bill.

Diane DeGette, D-Colo., who co-chairs the Pro-Choice Caucus, told The Associated Press that the Stupak-Pitts amendment was "the biggest restriction on a woman's right to choose that's been considered on the floor of the House" in her 13 years in Congress.

 



Paula Wolf is a staff writer for the Sunday News. She can be reached by e-mail at pwolf@lnpnews.com.

 


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QUOTE (clanker @ Nov 10 2009, 05:05 PM)
So how much jail time should a woman get for getting an abortion?

Didnt you read everything I wrote?? They want the easy way out rather than being pregnant for 9 mos.... "do the crime pay the time".... 9mos is TIME!
KAY242
QUOTE (BeingReal @ Nov 10 2009, 11:44 AM)
I originally thought that, but then I realized how can one truly count how many pregnancies have been prevented?


I concur to some extent, but I will note that natural family planning methods are embraced by Catholics, for example. Personally, I support preventative birth control -- I'd rather prevent conception than the alternative.

Edited to correct typo.

I was also thinking that. I guess it is an estimate using before and after data, but it is like shooting darts at that point.
They get the abortions prevented stat from national averages. But if the first number is only a guess the prevented must also be a guess.
I don't agree with giving these specific numbers, but I do believe that family planing and sex ed for young adults prevents unwanted pregnancy.
Preventing unwanted pregnancy, prevents abortion.
crickson
QUOTE (KAY242 @ Nov 10 2009, 04:01 PM)
Well said!!

If people would act right and actually think " hey... Im having sex... I could possibly get pregnant" rather than " it wont happen to me" this wouldnt be an issue. Abortion wouldnt be as common as it is now!
Why women have abortions
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).

http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html and before you all go saying how this is bull crap.... I found this on the "about us" page in the the link above.... Most of the articles posted on our website are written by CBR Executive Director, Gregg Cunningham, and all abortion facts are provided by the Alan Guttmacher Institute, the research arm of Planned Parenthood.
SOOOOOO 93% of women have abortions because they are to busy for a baby but not to busy to lay there and .... well.... u know.
Its disgusting and selfish... VERY VERY selfish. They would rather get rid of the baby than be pregnant for 9mos and give the child up for adoption.... Yeah... SELFISH!!!! For some reason Do the Crime pay the Time comes into my head ( not that sex is illegal or anything..... )


Your above stat from the Guttmacher is a paraphrase of what is written on their website.
Your very selfish SELFISH stat was added by your source.
Notice the wording on the top of the page you linked to.
I put in bold the part you forgot to mention in your post.

The following is a list of useful abortion statistics as well as some facts on abortifacients. All abortion numbers are derived from pro-abortion sources courtesy of The Alan Guttmacher Institute and Planned Parenthood's Family Planning Perspectives.

From the Guttmacher website

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

• The reasons women give for having an abortion underscore their understanding of the responsibilities of parenthood and family life. Three-fourths of women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; three-fourths say they cannot afford a child; three-fourths say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; and half say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner.[8]

QUOTE (KAY242 @ Nov 10 2009, 04:13 PM)
Didnt you read everything I wrote?? They want the easy way out rather than being pregnant for 9 mos.... "do the crime pay the time".... 9mos is TIME!

You are a bitter bitter human.
crickson
QUOTE (crickson @ Nov 10 2009, 05:24 PM)
You are a bitter bitter human.

because im not selfish... im bitter... ok.... if you say so.

I know that having sex can result in pregnancy... thats a fact right??

No matter how old you are, if you are in school, fighting with a boyfriend/spouse, not financially stable etc.... YOU CAN STILL GET PREGNANT if u have sex ( exspecially if it isnt safe sex - the "it will never happen to me" women)

For people that live by facts and statistics.... your kind of dumb. You cant argue with having sex can create a baby..... its 100% true.
KAY242
QUOTE (crickson @ Nov 10 2009, 03:14 PM)
I was also thinking that. I guess it is an estimate using before and after data, but it is like shooting darts at that point.
They get the abortions prevented stat from national averages. But if the first number is only a guess the prevented must also be a guess.
I don't agree with giving these specific numbers, but I do believe that family planing and sex ed for young adults prevents unwanted pregnancy.
Preventing unwanted pregnancy, prevents abortion.


I'd really like to know if that's what is intended by the statement and how that number was derived, but I guess the only option would be to contact the source to pose those questions.

We're in full agreement on your last two sentences. Thanks for the discussion.
BeingReal
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