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RRTA backs tolls on I-80
Intelligencer Journal
Lancaster New Era
Nov 19, 2009 06:09 EST
Lancaster
By BERNARD HARRIS, Staff Writer

Half of the people who ride public buses in Lancaster County are on their way to or from work. Those people have no other means to get to work and without buses, most would go on welfare.

That is why toll booths on Interstate 80 across northern Pennsylvania — at least a two-hour drive from Lancaster — are important to people in Lancaster, said David Kilmer, executive director of Red Rose Transit Authority.

At Kilmer's urging, members of the RRTA board on Wednesday unanimously approved a resolution in support of placing tolls on Interstate 80.

The resolution, which will be sent to U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, supports PennDOT's latest application for the tolling. The previous application was denied last year after federal officials sought more information on the plan.

What's important to Lancaster and Red Rose Transit, Kilmer said, is that without tolls on the 312 miles of interstate highway, RRTA could be out $270,000 in support from the state beginning in July.

"That's money that we can use to match federal money. That's something that worries me a lot," Kilmer said.

"If I can't match federal money, I can't get federal money," he said of the funding that comprises 80 percent of RRTA's budget.

Tolls on the interstate coupled with fare increases on the Pennsylvania Turnpike are expected to generate $250 million annually, Kilmer said.

Toll revenue from I-80 would be used on I-80, but money now being spent by the state to maintain and improve the interstate would be diverted to public transit systems and highways across the state, he said.

That plan was included in Act 44, passed by the state legislature in 2007.

"Whether we like it or not, whether we agree with it or not, it was passed and it's the law," he said of the tolling.

People here may disagree with tolling the road as a matter of principle. People in the northern part of the state are more direct in their opposition. And, Kilmer said, they are writing letters to LaHood and other federal officials in an attempt to block the tolls.

Red Rose Transit and public transit agencies across the state, at the urging of the Pennsylvania Public Transit Association, are attempting to show support for the measure, Kilmer said.

Transit agencies see Act 44 as a chance for a stable source of revenue. Before the passage of the law, RRTA was looking at places to cut services, he reminded the board.

"If this doesn't go through, we're back in a funding crisis again," he said.

Also on Wednesday, Kilmer updated the board on the construction of an expanded downtown bus station, parking garage and an expansion for Lancaster Museum of Art.

On Tuesday workers began removing piles of earth on the site at North Queen and East Chestnut streets. The initial steps are in preparation for laying the foundation for the $15 million project. Construction for those parts of the project should take about a year, Kilmer said.

There also are plans for a 38-unit condominium tower to rise above the garage and museum. That project, which could cost another $22 million to $25 million, would be constructed as a later phase.

The garage project, being built with federal funds, will provide revenue for RRTA that will help keep the agency operating.

bharris@lnpnews.com


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...and to stir all of this up even more, we should REMOVING the tolls from I-76 and disbanding the TP Commission NOT adding tolls to a additional roads. If we need to make up $, then raise the gas tax 1 cent, 2 cents, 3 cents... per gallon - whatever is needed. I've heard one knowledgeable person say it would be 5 cents per gallon.
acm_acm
QUOTE (acm_acm @ Nov 19 2009, 08:06 PM)
...and to stir all of this up even more, we should REMOVING the tolls from I-76 and disbanding the TP Commission NOT adding tolls to a additional roads. If we need to make up $, then raise the gas tax 1 cent, 2 cents, 3 cents... per gallon - whatever is needed. I've heard one knowledgeable person say it would be 5 cents per gallon.
Exactly what I was thinking. I believe it would quickly raise more money than tolling highways. And it would do it without having to build toll plazas. How long is that going to take, and how much will it cost? How long will it be before we make back the millions spent on the toll-collecting itself? Raising the gas tax would increase income to the State almost immediately. It also encourages all the things the State wants: encourages use of public transportaiton, discourages use of fossil fuels, encourages use of more efficient vehicles. What does tolling the interstate encourage? It will move traffic to less efficient, smaller roads. I don't blame RRTA for supporting any idea that could get them more funding, but this is not the best idea.
greidel
"Toll revenue from I-80 would be used on I-80, but money now being spent by the state to maintain and improve the interstate would be diverted to public transit systems and highways across the state, he said."

Once upon a time, our state roads and highways were maintained and improved with money from state income taxes (3.07% of the earnings of every person in PA), the 6% PA sales tax, and the state gasoline tax (32.3 cents on every gallon of gas sold in PA). It is, after all, about the only significant benefit the state government provides (on an ongoing basis) to the majority of people who live in Pennsylvania and pay income taxes.
Hercule
QUOTE (jasonbourne44 @ Nov 19 2009, 10:23 AM)
Its simple, when travelling, people will just avoid PA and opt to use maybe I-70 or I-86 and just go around Pennsylvania.

Not so simple. I-70 shares the Pennsylvania Turnpike from Everett (south of Altoona) to Greensburg (south of Pittsburgh). And a traveler from NYC/NJ/Philadelphia/Wilmington would have to take I-95 to Baltimore in order to catch I-70, which (besides being a much longer trip) includes tolls in Maryland, and a toll tunnel through Baltimore (not to mention Baltimore traffic).

I-68 through northern Maryland is an east-west alternative for Baltimore or Washington traffic , but it has hills and grades that are MUCH higher and steeper than the PA Turnpike, making it a less attractive choice for large trucks.

I-86/NY17 is too far north for even NYC traffic, and there is no good highway connecting Binghamton to Boston, without going through Albany and Schenectady - which is a LONG detour, especially in the winter.

Don't forget that both the New Jersey Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway are toll roads.

Perhaps you should do a little research before you post a comment like that one.
Artie See
QUOTE (solitary @ Nov 19 2009, 12:50 PM)
I forgot about slots. Isn't it great how we're all paying fewer taxes cause of all the slots revenue?

Absolutely. I saved nearly $400 on my school real estate taxes last year because of slots.
Artie See
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