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Wealth cannot be created by taxation
Intelligencer Journal
Lancaster New Era
Nov 19, 2009 08:59 EST
TO THE INTELL EDITORS:
Bob Herbert's column ("Safety nets for the rich,'' Oct. 21) illustrates how far detached from logic and facts class hatred is becoming. Herbert states: "We've spent the last few decades shoveling money at the rich ... ." But where did this money come from? Answer: the rich. The top 5 percent of taxpayers have provided 50 percent to 60 percent of the income tax receipts in America while the bottom 40 percent paid no income tax at all. It's not surprising, then, that when income tax rates are cut (as President George W. Bush did in 2003), less would be taken from those who paid more in the first place.

Consequently, from 2000 to 2004, the share of all individual income taxes paid by the bottom 40 percent dropped from zero percent to (-)4 percent, meaning that the average family in those quintiles received a subsidy (welfare payment) from the IRS. A Heritage Foundation Study, by contrast, found that the share paid by the top quintile of households (by income) increased from 81 percent to 85 percent.

I know of no rich person who gets money shoveled at them. I know many rich people who are shoveling money into the federal government. Without them, the subsidies to the bottom 40 percent will disappear.

Incredibly, Herbert then states - "we cannot continue transferring the nation's wealth to those at the apex ... ." But it's not the nation's wealth. Wealth is not a national resource. The nation only has wealth to the extent that it confiscates it from those who worked for it and earned it. And when the nation takes wealth from productive citizens (mostly small business owner-operators) those citizens are less able to provide jobs. Is less jobs what we want and need right now?

Waiting for it to "trickle down" is not an effective wealth-building strategy. On this, I agree with Herbert. Instead, one needs to work long, hard and smart while taking significant but measured risks while creating opportunity for others.

Every one of us is born capable of accomplishment. Buying into victim statements like Herbert's fuels envy and resentment instead of pride and self-reliance. It is also what drives some of us into the ditch.
Chris Poole

New Providence

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QUOTE (grieker @ Nov 20 2009, 07:49 AM)
CA is also looking at banning black vehicles.


They're going to ban Cadillac Escalades? Whoa!
area man
QUOTE (skeptic2 @ Nov 20 2009, 03:05 AM)
If, as expected, Obama reduces tax incentives for moving jobs overseas we could see an increase in inflation-adjusted wages. Assuming this takes 5 or more years, it will be reversal of a 35-year trend.

Obama can remove tax incentives but that doesn't mean your boss will stop buying overseas labor. Indian tech labor, for example, is about 1/5th the price of American tech labor. The current income tax structure provides your boss with plenty of incentive to purchase overseas workers because he keeps more of his bonus check. Since his buddies sit on his board, he'll get a bonus no matter how well the company performs. You got two choices, complain or claw up the ladder.
JoeDog
QUOTE (commonsense @ Nov 20 2009, 11:13 AM)
http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6

Not dubious, not misleading.


I don't want to debate motive. The original letter spoke about the less than half of tax revenue that comes from personal income tax without clearly indicating this was not all taxes. I provided clarification to put it in perspective.

QUOTE (commonsense @ Nov 20 2009, 11:13 AM)
Also consider that if corporations pay fewer taxes, they could hire more people. Just a thought.


This over-simplification does not follow what happens in the real world. A corporation is only going to expand its workforce if it believes it is can sustain growth in revenue. Cutting corporate taxes does not grow business - it just enriches shareholders.

QUOTE (Bustina di tè @ Nov 20 2009, 01:59 PM)
And now the Chi-coms that own our debt will be calling the shots if we want to borrow more.


Well, how's that saying go? If you owe the bank $10,000 it is your problem. If you owe them $10,000,000 it is their problem.
localyokel123
QUOTE (lee41 @ Nov 20 2009, 01:48 PM)
How low should it go? Corporate taxes are only 2.2% of GDP, below that of many developed countries.


Study says most corporations pay no U.S. income taxes - Reuters 8/12/2008

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Most U.S. and foreign corporations doing business in the United States avoid paying any federal income taxes, despite trillions of dollars worth of sales, a government study released on Tuesday said.

The Government Accountability Office said 72 percent of all foreign corporations and about 57 percent of U.S. companies doing business in the United States paid no federal income taxes for at least one year between 1998 and 2005.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1249465620080812

QUOTE (lee41 @ Nov 20 2009, 01:48 PM)
For years we heard how lowering the individual tax rates on the wealthy would create millions of jobs and 'trickle down' to everyone else. That didn't happen.


Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record

Wall Street Journal 1/9/09

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/...cord-on-record/

you don't say...
mnepats52
QUOTE (localyokel123 @ Nov 20 2009, 03:06 PM)
This over-simplification does not follow what happens in the real world. A corporation is only going to expand its workforce if it believes it is can sustain growth in revenue. Cutting corporate taxes does not grow business - it just enriches shareholders.


Great point!
lee41
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