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Man gets 8-20 years for rape of child
Says he didn't know girl was 12
Intelligencer Journal
Lancaster New Era
Nov 20, 2009 00:01 EST
Lancaster
By JANET KELLEY, Staff Writer

Calling the crime "despicable," a Lancaster County judge sentenced a city man to eight to 20 years in prison Thursday for raping a child.

Todd James Gilbert, now 22, told Judge Dennis Reinaker that he — the judge — didn't know all the facts of the case.

"You were 19 and she was 12," Reinaker said, " … and that's about as despicable a crime as I can think of."

Gilbert said he didn't know the girl's age when he met her in February 2007 at a Lancaster Township shopping center.

He was arrested a few months later by city police Detective Jimmy Mummau and charged with the rape of a child, sexual assault and corruption of minors.

Last May, Gilbert was charged with two counts of intimidating a witness after police said he tried to convince the victim not to testify against him.

In August, Gilbert pleaded guilty to all the charges in exchange for a total prison sentence of eight to 20 years in state prison.

"Don't you want to say anything to the victim or her family?" Reinaker asked Gilbert before imposing sentence.

"No, I'm ready to move on," Gilbert replied.

Defense attorneys Roger Renteria and Jeffery Wallitsch negotiated the length of the prison term with Assistant District Attorney Karen Mansfield.

Mansfield told Reinaker the victim and her family were in agreement with the proposed sentence.

Reinaker said had there not been an agreement reached in return for the guilty plea, "eight years wouldn't be the amount of time you would be serving."

More than a dozen of Gilbert's family members and friends filled the spectator section of the courtroom during the brief proceeding.

Gilbert's mother described her son as "a great man, a good person … who is kind and gentle and has a lot of faith in the Lord."

Although a psychological evaluation did not conclude that Gilbert is a sexually violent predator, Reinaker ordered him to comply with the Megan's Law sex offender conditions when he is released from prison.

Among those conditions, Gilbert must register his address and employment with state police.

In addition to the state prison sentence, Gilbert was ordered to pay $2,153 restitution, $100 in fines and court costs, including the cost of a DNA test.

Reinaker ordered Gilbert to have no contact with the girl or her family.

jkelley@lnpnews.com


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I know they are not allowed in court but I would love to see lie detector results from both the girl and they guy (if there were any). I am not condoning his behaviour, but I see these pre teen and teenage girls everyday on my way to work walking to school and I have to tell you some of the clothes they wear, the amount of makeup they put and the way they strut their stuff is disgraceful, and for parents to allow them to walk out of the house like that is embarrassing. I am not saying that this is the way this girl acted ( i know neither of the them), I am just saying I can see where you can be confused about a girls age. It is ashame to say this but as a man you need to take precautions to protect yourself. Girls at this age will do anything to get even once they get hurt.
KandJ
QUOTE (citydweller @ Nov 20 2009, 12:19 AM)
Having never seen the girl in question, I can't speak to how old she did or didn't "look". I can, however, speak to the many occasions when I saw a "girl" I though to be about 18-ish, only to find out shortly thereafter that she was the grandmother of the little children she was shouting obscenities at.

Perception and reality don't always mesh well around these parts. Not arguing with you Maffi, just sayin'.


City. no matter how a 12 yo looks, they speak a totally different language that shouldn't be too hard to spot. Example:

HAVNG NEVAR SEN DA GIRL IN QU3STION I CANT SP3AK 2 HOW OLD SH3 DID OR DIDNT LOK!1!!!111 OMG LOL I CAN HOWAVAR SP3AK 2 DA MANY OCASIONS WHEN I SAW A GIRL I THOUGH 2 B ABOUT 18-ISH ONLEY 2 FIND OUT SHORTLEY THERAAFTAR TAHT SHA WAS DA GRANDMOTHAR OF DA LITL3 CHILDRAN SHE WAS SHOUTNG OBSCENITEIS AT

P3RCEPTION!1!11 OMG AND REALITY DONT ALWAYS M3SH WAL AROUND THESE PARTS!11!!!11 WTF NOT ARGUNG WIT U MAFI JUST SAYIN!1!11 OMG WTF
A1
QUOTE (A1 @ Nov 24 2009, 10:48 AM)
City. no matter how a 12 yo looks, they speak a totally different language that shouldn't be too hard to spot. Example:

HAVNG NEVAR SEN DA GIRL IN QU3STION I CANT SP3AK 2 HOW OLD SH3 DID OR DIDNT LOK!1!!!111 OMG LOL I CAN HOWAVAR SP3AK 2 DA MANY OCASIONS WHEN I SAW A GIRL I THOUGH 2 B ABOUT 18-ISH ONLEY 2 FIND OUT SHORTLEY THERAAFTAR TAHT SHA WAS DA GRANDMOTHAR OF DA LITL3 CHILDRAN SHE WAS SHOUTNG OBSCENITEIS AT

P3RCEPTION!1!11 OMG AND REALITY DONT ALWAYS M3SH WAL AROUND THESE PARTS!11!!!11 WTF NOT ARGUNG WIT U MAFI JUST SAYIN!1!11 OMG WTF

You have no idea what you are talking about. Young girls these days are maturing alot faster and many of them can walk the walk and talk the talk. Hell the entire society is moving in fast pace. Babies are walking at 9 mos these days, kids are talking at age 2, complete sentences. Biologically a young girl is technically a woman at age 12. Society says that mentally they are incompetent, but for some of these girls, I can't agree.
herewegoagain
QUOTE (herewegoagain @ Nov 24 2009, 11:58 AM)
You have no idea what you are talking about. Young girls these days are maturing alot faster and many of them can walk the walk and talk the talk. Hell the entire society is moving in fast pace. Babies are walking at 9 mos these days, kids are talking at age 2, complete sentences. Biologically a young girl is technically a woman at age 12. Society says that mentally they are incompetent, but for some of these girls, I can't agree.

I so agree. I have nieces and friends that have daughters and they started menstrating before 10. My 8 year old niece NEEDS to wear a bra already. Girls are maturing faster and acting like they are adults when they are not. Again, I am not saying this is the case but I have seen it first hand. I had to remove pictures capability from my cell phone because my 10 year old is on my plan and he gets texts from girls in his class, and nowadays some of the things I hear these kids are doing with picture phones scares the crap out of me. Yes they are young kids, but they are young kids that as a parent you can not trust. I remember at my sons age I had my first kiss, nowadays that is nothing. As parents we need to teach our kids about responsibility and respect for their bodies, if we don't they will learn their lifestyle from other kids, tv, and music.
KandJ
QUOTE (herewegoagain @ Nov 24 2009, 10:58 AM)
You have no idea what you are talking about. Young girls these days are maturing alot faster and many of them can walk the walk and talk the talk. Hell the entire society is moving in fast pace. Babies are walking at 9 mos these days, kids are talking at age 2, complete sentences. Biologically a young girl is technically a woman at age 12. Society says that mentally they are incompetent, but for some of these girls, I can't agree.

First of all, I was just having some fun with city's post. However, if you can't tell the difference when speaking with a girl of 12 and one of 17, you might want to be careful out there.
A1
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